Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of black film box office receipts


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  02:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

List of black film box office receipts

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No sources supporting Notability. The creator worked alphabetically but only did some of A and B, e.g. no Beverly Hills Cop (franchise). Merely five films with other letters are listed three years later. No minimum box office is specified. Four listed films made less than $10 million. Others with hundreds of millions are missing. I think this mess should be deleted, not wait indefinitely to be expanded with hundreds or thousands of films depending on criteria. Wikipedia is not a box office database. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:10, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 02:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 02:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Delete “black film”? How does one even define such a broad, vague concept? Wikipedia has this strange problem with listcruft seemingly designed to push some kind of political statement— I’ve also seen (and helped delete) “list of films that pass the bechedel test”, “life spans of home appliances”, and “list of pro-china individuals”. Dronebogus (talk) 05:57, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NOTSTATS. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 07:03, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Possibly rename List of highest grossing black films to make it more manageable or WP:TNT it and start over. Essence has a such a list (though it doesn't define exactly what a "black film" is), and Ebony has one for black directors. The 2021 master's thesis Remaking Cinema: Black Hollywood Films, Filmmakers, and Finances claimed to have obtained the estimated domestic and worldwide box office figures for "over 700" black films. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:40, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment The WP:LEAD outlines the WP:LISTCRITERIA as any motion picture starring a black lead of any nationality. Where does this come from? If it's not based on WP:Reliable sources, that means that the very scope of this list is WP:Original research. Pinging who added that definition.Speaking more generally, we have way too many box office lists, and we are unable to maintain them to an acceptable standard. The nominator is absolutely correct in stating that Wikipedia is not a box office database (but there are other places on the internet that do fit that description, such as Box Office Mojo and The Numbers). Methinks we should consider drastically reducing the number of such lists. TompaDompa (talk) 00:25, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen all three of those: Articles for deletion/List of films that pass the Bechdel test, Articles for deletion/Life spans of home appliances, and Articles_for_deletion/List of pro-China individuals. The first was an act of OR with an incredibly broad scope, the second of these was impossible to present neutrally and accurately and contained explicit soapboxing about planned obsolescence, and the third (where I participated as well) was incredibly vague and posed serious BLP issues. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 10:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


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