Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bondage models by decade


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The result was   no consensus. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 02:13, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

List of bondage models by decade

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Not a single source in the article to indicate that being a bondage model is notable, nor to note that anybody on this list is noted for being one. p b  p  17:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:41, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:42, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. Regardless of the lack of sources in this list, there are at least some entries for people who have been noted for their bondage modeling, particularly Bettie Page. But not even Page only or mostly did bondage modeling. Category:Bondage models has more entries than this list, but at least some of the included articles do not even mention bondage, which is not to say that they never did that kind of work, but rather that it probably wasn't that significant for them or defining for their career. For mainstream models, we do not list or categorize every kind of modeling they have done (List of swimsuit models, Category:Lingerie models, Category:Runway models, List of cosmetics models) because most notable models do not specialize like this but rather take many different kinds of jobs over their career. For the same reasons, I question why this kind of listing should be done for porn models. It might be better simply to note the most significant examples in genre topic articles such as Bondage pornography (which already mentions Page), where they can be placed in historical context, rather than trying to catalog every notable model who ever happened to do that kind of work. postdlf (talk) 16:31, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, at least one person remains on the list as dead but the pothers can likely be returned with reliable sources, topic doesnt seem entirely unnotable♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 21:55, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per postdlf's sound analysis. The long-standing sourcing failures and lack of well-defined inclusion criteria also weigh against maintaining such a list. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 16:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 00:26, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Keep - I've added a bunch of sources, and I'm still working on it. I'm new to this article but working on it convinces me it's savable and valuable, and fits the notability requirements. I encourage others to do the same. Sourcing porn performers can be challenging given the poor signal to noise ratio of reliable to unreliable sources, but they're out there. I've rephrased the inclusion criteria somewhat to make clear that we're looking for people notable as bondage models, not simply porn (or non-porn) performers whose body of work includes bondage; also a request to include an inline source when adding any new list items. Although it's not the most important article in the world the underlying subject of bondage models is notable, and organizing information as a list by decade is a useful service to readers interested in learning more about the subject. - Wikidemon (talk) 03:40, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   12:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:28, 28 August 2014 (UTC)


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