Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bosses in The Ocean Hunter


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The result was Delete. Marasmusine 17:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

List of bosses in The Ocean Hunter

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Per WP is not a game guide - I dont think we should be going to a level where we're describing all the units and maps in a particular game. Also, lots of claims made here that's WP:OR with nothing to back it up (user-submitted FAQ is not a reliable source) Corpx 15:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a game guide. --Eyrian 15:31, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Incredibly strong if not speedy keep or merge or redirect without deletion. Created out of a request for comment suggestion as a compromise.  Article in this instance concerns a notable arcade game that is noteworthy for it its use of mythological creatures as bosses.  Not a game guide in anyway as it does not tell people how to beat the bosses, but rather provides an organized list of the many bosses that are inspired from mythological creatures.  I would like to assume good faith, but I cannot help but notice that the first two people to vote here on an article I happened to create are individuals currently debating with me on the WP Not talk page.  I hope it's just coincidence.  --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 15:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * "Game guide" doesn't just mean walkthrough. Excessive information about gameplay details simply isn't appropriate. --Eyrian 15:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This article is hardly excessive. It does not describe every minute detail about the bosses.  In this instance, the bosses are a core aspect of the game and again it is notable because ALL of them are based on world myths.  The list is referenced, verifiable, factual, organized, not "indescriminate," not "cruft," or any other nonsense term.  The article concerns what makes the bosses of this game unique, not game play.  --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 15:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem I have with this article is that this is about the bosses in the game. I was looking at Category:Lists of video game characters, and none of them are about a specific group of characters in a game. Maybe we can move this to List of characters in The Ocean Hunter and expand, but then again it would have to be sourced from something other than a user-submitted game guide.  Is there any reliable source talking about just the characters in this game?  Corpx 16:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I would not be opposed to moving the article to List of characters in The Ocean Hunter. Incidentally, I have beaten the game in the arcade, so I know that the list in accurate.  As for additional sources, I'll see what I can find:


 * - shows some game play with bosses
 * - notes Kraken's appearance in the game
 * - includes some screenshots showing bosses
 * - has information of game and screen shots
 * - official flyer with information and screen shots


 * Sincerely, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 16:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * These are not reliable sources. --Eyrian 16:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, they are as some of them show footage or screenshots from the actual game. -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 16:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That may be so, but they still fail WP:RS, especially the YouTube link. YouTube is never a reliable source. Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 16:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Le Grand, I understand your enthusiasm as the article's creator, but this isn't really a candidate for speedy keep.--Chaser - T 03:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm interested in mythology, not video games, and I'd never even heard of some of these, so it occurred to me that most of them ought to be in a category like "mythical ocean creatures', which doesn't seem to exist. Come to think of it, if there was such a category, the game article could link to it (something like "Many of the bosses in this game are taken from the mythical ocean creatures of various cultures"). --Jamoche 17:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that's an excellent solution. --Eyrian 17:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge with main article, or simply delete. -Sean Curtin 06:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I would not be opposed to a merge and redirect without a deletion. --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 15:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. A list of non-characters in a light-gun shooter. These are simply obstacles you shoot in their weak spot until they're dead. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with the main article, to the best extent possible. Chengwes 07:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete subtrivial content not needed in main article. Eluchil404 05:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The bosses of a game are not trivial, but rather are an integral aspect of the game in this particular game the major point is to fight various sea mosnters all of which are based on world myths and legends. --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 05:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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