Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bullion coins


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus as to whether this should be kept or merged. With no one but the nom arguing for deletion, this does not need an additional relist and whether/where to merge can be solved editorially. Star  Mississippi  15:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

List of bullion coins

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Fails WP:LISTN. I'm not seeing a source that discusses the coins as a unit, and not just individually. Oh, and if kept, the inclusion criteria need ascertaining. Certainly we could list all bullion coins ever produced, but such a list would be overwhelming, since bullion was much more common throughout history. Perhaps I've missed something, and the list is only those bullion coins currently in production. But in that case, it still appears to fail LISTN, or be a directory style amalgamation of info. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 05:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * As the creator of the page, I have the following comment to make:
 * First, what that page have is nearly entirely taken from the Bullion coins article; in fact, I have shortened some materials when I created the List of bullion coins page. I will admit it: I added nothing new when I split the bullion coins article into the list.
 * Second, you have perfectly encapsulated what I see as the greatest issue with Wikipedia articles on numismatics: they go off-track and fancruft too often. I sincerely believe that a few pages need serious splitting to avoid coatrack - at one point, most of the Platinum coin article pertain only to Russian coins, or to coins that already have their own WP page - and the bullion coins page, before my creation of the list, is no better.
 * My list (yes, I have read WP:OWN) being challenged is proof that, had I kept the content of the list intact at the bullion coins page, it would still be unsuitable for inclusion. But the readers, the editors, they just leave it there for years!
 * My vote (I have also read WP:NOTVOTE) is: Endorse deletion, do not G7 or merge.
 * NotReallySoroka (talk) 05:40, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Since we are here, : is an RfC a good way to determine what should be included at numismatic pages? NotReallySoroka (talk) 05:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'd say an RfC is a good way to determine inclusion criteria. And thank you very much for the explanation of the page, I knew there was something about the page I was missing... CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 05:44, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   14:29, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge back from whence it came Not all the information was brought over from the main article.  This is a valid navigational list if it only list things that have their own article.  But in this case I believe it works better where it was at before, that article rather short without this in it.   D r e a m Focus  14:22, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I would oppose your suggestion, as the one who performed the split. Assuming, arguendo, that my list fails WP:LISTN, it wouldn't miraculously pass it if my list's content were merged back from whence it came. Even if my list turned out to pass WP:LISTN, it doesn't mean Bullion coins should focus on listing bullion coins; instead, it should focus on discussing bullion coins (e.g. what constitutes a "coin", what metals are used to make them…) instead of a coatrack of a list. NotReallySoroka (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge back to Bullion coins. There could be a navigation-style list of this title that lists all the stand-alone articles on bullion coins, such as the Krugerrand.  There is a lot of extraneous information in the current article that shouldn't be on such a list, but would be acceptable in the bullion coins article. User:力 (powera,  π,  ν ) 18:13, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If this must be done, then I would think we should link to a category of bullion coins, from which readers can look for coins. Please see my comment starting with "I would oppose your suggestion, as the one…". Thank you. NotReallySoroka (talk) 07:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I fail to see how it fails WP:LISTN, as bullion coins are both a notable topic and most of the links in the list are bluelinks to actual pages for notable coins. A list is also better off as its own page given its size in comparison to the article's actual content, which could use expansion. This seems like a total misinterpretation of the list notability guidelines. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge to Bullion coins. Not ready for stand alone article yet. NavjotSR (talk) 10:17, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.