Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bus routes in Alton, Bordon and Tadley area (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Consensus is to delete as: Wikipedia is not a travel guide, and as a content fork of a related article ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:02, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

List of bus routes in Alton, Bordon and Tadley area
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Primarily Not Notable (Particularly as a collective group) - Not currently sourced (and the only sources available are primary) - Google Keyword Tool reveals that this Term has never been searched for, not only that while it reveals a small number of Google users searched for buses from Alton, far more searched for the routes of individual bus companies in the area (Google also suggested Basingstoke buses as a suitable search alternative). Web Hits for the Article show very little activity only occasionally rising above normal Web Spider activity. Wikipedia is not a travel guide or directory.... Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 10:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Per WP:5P, it may not have to be notable. There are so many articles with only primary sources, that are deemed notable. Lacking secondary sources, isn't a reason for deletion, as some notable subjects can only be proved with primary sources. Adam Mugliston  Talk  10:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That sounds like an other stuff exists reasoning. and per our verifiability policy "Base articles largely on reliable secondary sources. While primary sources are appropriate in some cases, relying on them can be problematic." - This information is expected to be provided and maintained by the Bus Companies and Local Authorities, not Wikipedia. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 11:46, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete because Wikipedia is not a directory or travel guide. This article is completely unsourced, and I'm not sure what benefit it provides; anyone wanting to know how to get from one place to another in the Alton-Bordon-Tadley area would be better off consulting the bus company web site in order to find the routes and schedules of the buses, as opposed to this article which doesn't provide, and can't practically provide, such information. A similar article was deleted recently at Articles for deletion/List of bus routes in Huntingdon, St Ives and St Neots. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge. This and the other articles should be in List of bus routes in Hampshire, the split into several small articles (other than possibly large towns and cities with their own networks of routes) seems unnecessary. Peter&#160;E.&#160;James (talk) 16:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per Metropolitan90 and because Wikipedia is not a reliable source. There can be no certainty that a page is not out of date or vandalised when accessed. It should not be used as a guide.--Charles (talk) 20:47, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:NOT; we're just not a travel guide and this isn't encyclopedia-type content.  Imzadi 1979  →   23:28, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete As per above and most of the other comments. List of bus routes don't belong here. People would want to go to an official website not Wikipedia. People will not want to look on Wikipedia for bus routes which official websites such as Traveline have. Wilbysuffolk   Talk to me  07:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge It's fairly clear that this list on its own doesn't satisfy WP:LISTN but the wider topic of bus routes in Hampshire does. Therefore this content should be merged into that article. waggers (talk) 13:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Intresting, per WP:LISTN do you have evidence of reliable secondary sources that discuss the subject of bus routes in Hampshire as a collective group? From my own searches the majority reliable sources tend to discuss the route or routes of specific bus companies rather than discussing a wide geographical list of routes by multiple operators. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 13:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I've put this page on Uk Transport Wikia. See here.  Wilbysuffolk   Talk to me  15:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete As Ipswich & Woodbridge, Harleston, Stowmarket & Needham Market and Huntingdon, St Ives and St Neots has shown us thease small bus routes pages are not notable. I can imagine having and article for the London bus routes but not some small towns. Most of the above articles where longer than this and still got deleted therefore this shows us they are just not notable. Got to a bus site not wikipedia from routes to a town. Anyway it's on Wikia so why have it here as well. 81.147.191.124 (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge This is covered by List of bus routes in Hampshire not sure why it is a separate article.  Wilbysuffolk   Talk to me  17:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as completely unreferenced. Stuartyeates (talk) 05:34, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
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