Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bus routes in Derbyshire


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The result was   delete. If anyone want to transwiki this I would be happy to userfy it to them. J04n(talk page) 11:55, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

List of bus routes in Derbyshire

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Wikipedia is not a travel guide. It is not clear that this article could ever be particularly useful to people interested in taking a bus in Berkshire, given that one would have to refer to the bus company's web site to confirm that the bus service still exists, what days it runs, what time it runs, and where to get on the bus. Also it only has two sources. Wilbysuffolk (Talk to me!) 13:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not clear that you proofread, of course it's not gonna be useful to people in Berkshire, is it? Unless of course, they want to go to Derbyshire.  Rcsprinter  (lecture)  @ 15:54, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete as not notable Davey 2010   Talk  14:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep All the county bus route lists should be kept, even if you delete ones for a smaller scale. It is part of the set and you would be destroying hundreds of hours of my time. Sick of the argument - notable, in scope, and sourced!  Rcsprinter  (lecture)  @ 15:54, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:50, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * DeleteThere's no argument for keeping county lists over smaller town/village ones. Only sourced to primary and only likely to be sourced to such sources so fails notability policy, Wikipedia is not a travel guide, and  Wikipedia is not a directory put it out of scope. Complaining that it would be "destroying hundreds of hours of [your] time" isn't really an argument for keeping, especially when you were advised years ago that these were out of scope and not notable and you continued to create them anyway. If you wish to try Transwiking to the UK bus Wiki on Wikia or wikivoyage, I'd support that move. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 18:13, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable and difficult, if not impossible, to reliably maintain using third party sources. The external link provides the key information that any user would want to know - the lead and this link might form the basis for a prose article about Buses in Derbyshire if anyone wanted to write an interesting prose article which could include all sorts of interesting history and other useful stuff about buses. The list by itself really isn't that useful and lacks proper sourcing. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep They are notable equally to other forms of transport which are never deleted. Primary sources are perfectly valid for this as they are  more reliable. It isn't a subject that secondary sources would mention but are still notable.  Adam Mugliston  talk  21:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete—fails WP:GNG and WP:NOTTRAVEL. Lists like these should be transwikied to Wikivoyage rather than left on Wikipedia.  Imzadi 1979  →   00:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTTRAVEL. Beagel (talk) 14:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:N, WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTTRAVEL. It is unfortunate that so many of these lists are on at the same time but they are no more notable than a list of hotels or a list of convenience stores.--Charles (talk) 19:43, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Transwikify to wikivoyage then Delete -- all these bus routes articles should be killed off wholesale in WP, as non-encyclopedic: WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTTRAVEL. There is a particular difficulty with them, in that they need maintenance, because bus operators start new services or discontinue them.  Once the original editor (creator) loses interest, there is no guarantee that they will be adequately maintained.  In contrast the bus operators and Passenger Transport Executives (and similar authorities, such as county councils) can be expected to keep their own websites up to date.  In contrast, a railway (or tram system) has fixed infrastructure that cannot easily be changed.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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