Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bus routes in Essex (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Can be userfied for transwiki if desired.  Sandstein  08:47, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

List of bus routes in Essex
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belongs on Wikivoyage. - Apologies for the constant nominations - Somehow all was going wrong  Davey 2010   Talk  00:57, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wikivoyage or delete. As with the discussions of siimilar articles, I see this as unencyclopedic. --Michig (talk) 07:17, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or Transwiki to UK Transport Wiki on Wikia. There are no reliable secondary sources to meet WP:GNG and it fails WP:NOTDIR and WO:NOTTRAVEL.--Charles (talk) 10:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:02, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:02, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:02, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Procedural closure An article with 300 hundred contributors over six years, massively Wikilinked to other articles, numerous "What Links Here" links, and no evidence of the other relevant factors in WP:BEFORE to prepare the community for a massive deletion; IMO needs more than a three-word deletion nomination without a policy basis.  Unscintillating (talk) 03:13, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-encyclopaedic. Support all the nomination reasons and suggest that the bus trivia fans are encouraged to contribute the UK Transport Wiki at Wikia. --Bob Re-born (talk) 6:09 am, 3 March 2013, last Sunday (7 days ago) (UTC−8)
 * Recommend procedural closure, as the bus route lists would be better discussed as a set, and if one is encyclopedic or unencyclopedic then the others are. Many of the arguments that resulted in other lists being kept or deleted, or often resulted in no consensus, as well as those currently being discussed (West Midlands and Worcestesrhire) could be applied to this one, and there can't be a consensus that these lists are encyclopedic for some counties but not for others just because different editors participated in the discussions, particularly when no editor has provided a reason to distinguish them. Peter&#160;James (talk) 7:00 am, 3 March 2013, last Sunday (7 days ago) (UTC−8)
 * Transwikify to Wikitravel. We do not need this in WP: it is not encyclopaedic and is liable to become inaccurate, if the present editors lose interest. Peterkingiron (talk) 6:15 am, 4 March 2013, last Monday (6 days ago) (UTC−8)
 * Delete, transwikifying if required or desired to Wikia or someplace else. It realistically fails notability and lists such as this become out of date and next to impossible to maintain reliably as well as not really belonging on Wikipedia. The first two paragraphs would, however, make a useful start to an article named Buses in Essex (rather like Buses in Portsmouth) so there may be mileage in moving the article there and retaining just this content for now, particularly given Unscintillating's comments above. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:42, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete This belongs on Wikivoyage, not here, and fails notability requirements. I concur with that it is very difficult to keep the content verifiable at this point.  TB  randley  (review) 03:52, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
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