Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of campus radio stations


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The result was Keep. It needs some work, but that's no reason to delete it. Rjd0060 (talk) 00:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

List of campus radio stations

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as already noted, this is an incomplete list which may never be completable. These stations are already categorized in their home countries, is a list of them providing any value? Rtphokie (talk) 12:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.   —Pixelface (talk) 13:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete because a lot of the stations on here aren't very notable themselves or don't have articles; I just checked about 10 links more or less at random, and at least four of them went to disambiguation pages or an article on a completely different station. If this is kept, it could use some serious cleanup. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 14:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Categories don't replace lists; they serve two very different purposes. Categories, lists, and navigational templates explicitly states that they should be used in synergy rather than replacing each other in most cases. For example, if you specifically wanted to see what college radio stations broadcast in Chicago, without the list you would have to manually click through most of the 372 stations in Category:College radio stations in the United States to see which ones are in Chicago. And only five countries have dedicated "(campus/college/student) radio stations" categories — so if you wanted to see what student radio stations broadcast in France, you'd have to manually click through every single article in Category:Radio stations in France to see which ones are operated by university students. The list could certainly use some serious cleanup and improvement — the US should probably be split out to its own separate list, for example — but since lists and categories organize and contextualize the information in different ways, they're not redundant with each other. And the incompleteness and/or sloppiness of a list are reasons to improve it, not reasons to delete it. So keep and cleanup. Bearcat (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I was notified of this discussion as the person who began the article back in mid-2005.  I disagree with the implication that the nominator opens with that the merit of a list is decreased by its being open-ended.  There are two main types of lists - closed and open; Wikipedia is equipped to deal with and embraces both.  As Bearcat points out, categorization and listification are complementary rather than mutually exclusive.  What one wants to discourage is recapitulating one in the other format.  If this list were merely a list of stations in each country, there would be no merit to its retention.  However, the list includes home city, call letters and hosting University, a combination that cannot be as efficiently recapitulated in categorical form.  The list could be further enriched by adding more information, such as year of establishment, status (active or off-air), broadcast season (school year or year-round), etc.  These additions to the information are not redundant with that information also being found in related articles as presence in specific articles does not provide an overview and comparative view that such a list does.  I would encourage a set of specific goals be established for the list so that improvement drives can work toward those goals. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep it will be as complete as we make it. most articles in WP will benefit from further editing and most lists from additions. Lists of uncertain length, but with a clear criterion are perfectly acceptable.DGG (talk) 23:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * week keep: It suffers from being both incomplete, and out of date. its bad organization doesn't help things.jonathon (talk) 03:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per DGG and Ceyockey; clear criteria for inclusion, and has information which cannot appear in a category (such as location and school), and meets list guidelines. It is as maintainable as any other Wikipedia list of this length and breadth, of which there are many. DHowell (talk) 23:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


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