Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of capitals of European Union by area


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The result was keep. John254 03:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

List of capitals of European Union by area

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Fails WP:V - no reliable sources showing third-party notability (ie, that anyone outside Wikipedia has ever considered the connection between EU capital cities and their area). Thus, neither verifiable nor notable. Biruitorul (talk) 18:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep; the size of the cities are certainly verifiable, and the subject encyclopedic, if a bit odd and unusual.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * How about a "List of national capitals cities by area"? That would be a little more representative. Biruitorul (talk) 19:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be great. But it has nothing to do with this article.--Prosfilaes (talk) 12:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "Nothing"? This article is based on an artificial selection of countries, while that one would cover the whole world. So I say let's get rid of this one until we write the other one. Biruitorul (talk) 13:15, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. I'm a little skeptical that this is needed, even though I like the gazetteer aspects of Wikipedia a bit more than some, but it certainly has no reason to be limited to the EU. --Dhartung | Talk 19:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Legitimate subject. On the one hand, it would be weird if the list excluded, say, all EU capitals where French is spoken. On the other hand, of course you could include anything and everything, but that's not the title of this article either. &lt;K  F&gt;  20:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep has notability and highly impossible to merge with European Union due to its size so a speedy keep is good . --Pearll&#39;s sun (talk) 21:03, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This is, um. Well. Contra the nominator, the information is verifiable -- it's trivially easy to look up the members of the EU, their capital cities, and those areas. I agree with the concern that this collection of information is not particularly notable, and is even a little odd. At least as it stands. Here's my proposal: Keep and rename List of capitals of the European Union or something similar, and expand by adding a sortable column for Population. And possibly other information that might be useful, like per capita income or date of founding/settlement if that can be sufficiently established with any reliability -- but that would be for the editors to discuss on the talk page. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and while we're at it, replace the Rank column with Country, since with the flags, that's really what it is. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep as notable and verifiable, though this is rather specific and lacks much future expansion. I would strongly suggest the creation of List of national capitals by area (as List of capitals by country), and at that point editors could decide whether the two would warrant a merge.   Joshdboz (talk) 22:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This might be a bit of a radical proposition, but wouldn't just make sense to have a single "List of capitol cities" in a sortable tabular format with all of the data such as country, population, area, etc.? That way, the information could be sorted alphabetically by country, or numerically by population, by area, or whatever, all within a single page without having to duplicate information. Just a thought... LaMenta3 (talk) 22:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment but my openion is that such a separate list is needed for a better information . --Pearll&#39;s sun (talk) 23:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah, but then you run into another dilemma: what do you do with Oslo, Berne, Minsk...capitals of European countries not in the EU? Make a List of capitals of European non-European Union members by area? Better to start with a List of capitals of European nations by area and then expand to the rest of the world. Biruitorul (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment There are 21 Member States listed, why not the other six? --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And, while we're at it, the EU (which is what the title refers to) has (let us say) just two capitals, Brussels and Strasbourg, not 21 or 27. Biruitorul (talk) 01:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep I'm a little confused to how this is important enough to have its own article. Brokenspirits (talk) 01:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


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