Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Dwyane Wade


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete.  Daniel  09:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

List of career achievements by Dwyane Wade

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While certainly a good basketball player, this is basically a too-detailed list of obscure statistics about a young basketball player who has an unsure place in history at this point. Violates WP:IINFO among other guidelines. This is just overkill, and is easily summarized in his main article. If he becomes washed up or injured in the near future, this page will look very silly. And please don't give arguments like "Dwyane Wade is notable", since he is, but that's not the issue, it's the issue of various stats as his own page is notable. Dannycali 08:37, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Once you remove the really esoteric ones like "7th player in NBA history to average 25 points, eight assists and six rebounds while shooting 50 percent from the floor in a playoff series," this can easily be merged into the main article. --Bongwarrior 09:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Unless a player is someone like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Doctor J, Larry Bird, etc. Then a separate article for achievements is not needed. KyuuA4 05:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above, and seems seriously POVish to have it all separate. Bulldog123 20:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with player article after some pruning to remove some of the crufty or less notable statistics. Wisdom89 21:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Too detailed is your argument to delete? Who decides what is too detailed? Because you find certain statistics notable, and others not? I find your POV incredible; why not take a gander at List of career achievements by LeBron James, List of career achievements by Kobe Bryant, List of career achievements by Michael Jordan, etc. and inform us all of how those pages are too detailed. Poor argument here to have the article delete.  In fact, if this article is deleted, they might as well all be deleted. Zodiiak 12:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment First off, I'd like to note that the above user is the primary editor on said page, with a bulk of the edits made. Second, most of these facts/records, are just too trivial to be on this site.  This is an encyclopedia, it is to provide overviews on topics.  How a long-winded list on things and trivia on a barely proven, somewhat injury prone basketball player deserves a page like this, I don't think so.  I'm not really keen on the Jordan, James and Bryant having their own stats pages either, but since they are more proven, I'll let them be for now. Dannycali 08:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * More proven? All of the stats/records at the Wade page are referenced. Your biases are clear. Zodiiak 23:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think Dannycali meant the players are more proven, not the facts contained in the articles. --Bongwarrior 23:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If that is true, it makes even less sense. Considering the fact that Wade has already won an NBA Title, while LeBron James has not. Zodiiak 16:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, your argument makes the least sense. Although both Wade and James are notable, James is much more notable due to media coverage and a more proven, less injury-plagued (at this point) career, and is much more famous among the mainstream than Wade is.  Even backup players win championships, does that mean that Bill Wennington is a better player than LeBron James just b/c he's been on some championship teams?  This page needs to go. Dannycali 02:50, 17 October

2007 (UTC)
 * Do you know anything about Basketball? D-Wade is the top earner when it comes to Ads and Promotions -- he tops LeBron, Kobe, and Melo. LeBron is much more famous among mainstream? Where the hell have you been -- Wade has had the number one selling jersey for two years straight -- over LeBron and Kobe.  He dropped in the last year (mainly because of Kobe's jersey change) and now has the number 2 selling jersey.  Wow, I don't even know how to explain how ridiculous your statements are -- poorly researched and evidenced. Regarding Wade's championship and his comparison to Wennington -- Not only did Wade win a championship, he was the MVP (over Shaq, which is something no one can say) with the 3rd highest scoring average in Finals History.  It takes more than you're absurd POV of "Uh...Well I don't like D-Wade and I like LeBron and Kobe more so I think they're more notable" to actually nominate an article for deletion.  Terrible. Can someone who actually knows about the NBA comment on this. Zodiiak 03:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * All I can say is this, you are dead wrong, and I have been a knowledgeable basketball fan my whole life. I also know what is and isn't notable on Wikipedia, and a big list of obscure stats on a barely proven player, as its own page, is simply not suitable for this project.  Can we please close this debate? Dannycali 23:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. Statistics pages like this one can occasionally be justified if they are well-written, unified, and coherent, or if they cross-link a variety of subjects in novel ways. Unfortunately this one looks like a 'data dump'. Some of the firsts appear contrived and unnatural, like the one mentioned by the first commenter. I don't particularly like the stats pages for the other NBA players, either. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. EdJohnston 03:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.