Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of celebrities in The Simpsons


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No consensus to delete. The discussion on merging can continue on the article's talk page (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

List of celebrities in The Simpsons

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This page is a unneeded list of celebrities in The Simpsons. Considering how there is already a List of characters in The Simpsons and List of recurring characters in The Simpsons, not to mention other lists like one-time characters, this page seems very extraneous. In addition, it leaves out major celebrities (like Krusty and Kent Brockman) At the least, it should be merged with another Simpsons list. Crahan335 (talk) 13:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Close nomination. The nominator suggests the content should be merged. AFD is to discuss deletions. - Mgm|(talk) 13:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - While I tend to agree that this might have been addressed by a merge discussion, we're already here. "Merge" is a common outcome of AfDs. I think we can easily wrap this up in a couple of days on AfD with no negative impact to speak of. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - "I'm Troy McClure and, though you wouldn't know it from List of celebrities in The Simpsons, I'm a celebrity in The Simpsons." What we need is one comprehensive list of recurring characters. Apparently, McClure, Krusty, et al. are "Media personalities" not "Celebrities". "Celebrities", per the tm, is a sub-category of "Media personalities". As it stands, the article should be titled "Celebrities in The Simpsons who do not have their own articles." The distinction is not encyclopedic in any way. Is McClure a celebrity? It seems the running joke is that he is a quasi-celebrity, known more for passing himself off as famous more than for actually being famous. This should be split between List_of_recurring_characters_in_The_Simpsons and List_of_one-time_characters_in_The_Simpsons. Similarly, List_of_fictional_characters_within_The_Simpsons should be merged as well. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep I voted delete on the list of students, but I believe this one should be kept due to the length of the List of recurring characters on The Simpsons. This one is 33,218 and that one is 118,597 which would make it huge. That is the reason this list was created in the first place, because there are a lot of notable celebrity characters in the show and it seemed like a good split, it's also worth noting. In this case, all of the characters would have to be merged into the recurring list, while in the students list, the majority were one-timers or minor backgrounders. And before people say "just trim down the article", I have tried, but fanboys insist that every character needs to be in there. By the way, your logic that it excludes notable characters is false because it is only meant to have ones who aren't notable enough for a single page. -- Scorpion 0422  15:16, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge Honestly, I thought this was going to be about the portrayals of real people on The Simpsons-- Gerald Ford, Darrel Strawberry, George H.W. Bush, Leonard Nimoy, etc. What's this doing out of the pool?  From what I understand, this is about people who are seen on TV shows that are in the TV show.  If we lived inside the cartoon, and we had a cartoon version of Wikipedia, most of these people would not be considered celebrities.  (Lisa: "But Bart, notabiility does not expire!"  Bart: "Big deal!"). Mandsford (talk) 17:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lists can be viable if they deal with topics that are of themselves notable. The Simpsons is very notable for the breadth of guest stars it has had over its 20-year run (Alan Moore? Thomas Pynchon? These aren't your run of the mill guests). This shouldn't be connected to the recurring characters/one-time characters lists as those should be reserved for fictional creations. It would be nice if we could come up with a word other than "celebrities" for the title. 23skidoo (talk) 18:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Umm, the characters in this article are fictional creations. The people you're talking about appear in List of guest stars on The Simpsons. Deor (talk) 20:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Merging this page with the recurring characters list would make it to big- better to let a large, notable group get a page than making one huge page of everyone. Rhino131 (talk) 00:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge into List of recurring characters in The Simpsons (these do fall into the group indicated by that title, after all), and cut some of the cruft out to make the list shorter. All that stuff about the 400 reasons why Star News Online loves The Simpsons should go for starters. Deor (talk) 01:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and discuss a merge elsewhere--this is just a matter of style, not of deletion. Personally, i think its clearer kept separate. DGG (talk) 03:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep No reason to delete has been given and this is not the place to discuss a merger. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Nom doesn't want to delete, so why is this here? Merge per WP:BOLD and if reverted follow the normal dispute resolution process. Hobit (talk) 15:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


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