Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of chapters and verses in the Book of Job


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was speedy deleted per WP:CSD A3, as it consists only of links elsewhere and a rephrasing of the title. I will of course userfy it on request if Rich has not yet saved the text elsewhere. --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

List of chapters and verses in the Book of Job
Shouldn't this be included in Wikisource instead? There is nothing in this article - all wikilinks are dead. Seems to simply be using space. Robertsteadman 12:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * On the 5th and 6th of June user: Rich Farmbrough started so many articles including one like this for every book of the Bible - all are just redlinks... do I have to list each separate one for AfD or can an admin advise about removing the lot on block? It seems that this user has been creating endless empty artciles for several days!! Robertsteadman 12:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Good grief ... I was just noticing that ... he also created eleventy billion articles for every verse of Matthew that do nothing but redirect to Gospel of Matthew. What the heck is the point?  I have left a comment on User talk:Rich Farmbrough asking what his intentions are for the articles.  But to answer your question, if he is unwilling for them to be speedy deleted, then they all have to come through AFD.  They can come through together in a single nomination - just tag each article with afd1 and change the AFD link to be the link to the common nomination.  HOWEVER - I would suggest only nominating the ones that are nothing but redlinks together.  If there is a book that has articles for some verses, then there may be some who would want to keep that list, but delete the ones that are only redlinks. BigDT 12:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * OK - it does seem he's got a little out of control!! - and he wants to be an admin!!! Robertsteadman 12:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Please note, after I wrote this message, User:Rich Farmbrough left a note on my talk page saying that he does have a purpose for the articles and expressing a willingness to userfy them in the interim. BigDT 12:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete All these red links are simply going to encourage people to create articles on them, something which would be redundant with the contents of them already at wikisource. At the very least all these links should be delinked Ydam 12:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * As user: Rich Farmbrough has done this for all 66 books of the Bible (and some other stuff too) could he be asked to de-link everything - otehrwise its a hell of a job!!! Robertsteadman 12:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Userfy per BigDT 12:39, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Don;t we need some explanation of how these will be userfied and how these will be different from wikisource before changing from Delete? Robertsteadman 12:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Just as a point of procedure, once they are in his user space and not in article space, the place to discuss deletion is Miscellany for deletion. However, in userspace, as long as you aren't violating some policy like WP:NPA, you have wide liberty to work on articles.  A lot of people work on not-ready-for-prime-time articles in their own userspace and then move them to article space once they feel they are useful.  This would be no different, IMO. BigDT 12:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. "List" implies that it's just that - a list of all of the verses in the Bible.  Even if it's userfied and then properly expanded and completed, it'll be redundant with Wikisource.  --fuzzy510 12:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - forgot to include my vote! Robertsteadman 12:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I will Userify these for now (later today or tomorrow). Regards, Rich Farmbrough 12:51 12 June 2006 (GMT). 12:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

How? What will you do? How will it make any difference to Wikisource? What is the point? Robertsteadman 12:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * FYI, there is a "move" link at the top of each page. He will probably use that link to move them to User:Rich Farmbrough/List of chapters and verses in the Book of Job, etc.  That way, they are not in article space and he can work on them within his user space until there is a use for them. BigDT 13:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I still think delete - there is no good purpose behind this nor the million other empty articles he has begun. Robertsteadman 13:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.