Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cities by murder rate


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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 12:54, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

List of cities by murder rate

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Article relies entirely on a single, unreliable source Odiseo79 (talk) 19:33, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Homicide in world cities. Might be an acceptable topic however WP:RS is an issue in this case. Ajf773 (talk) 00:09, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: It has two sources. Which one is the unreliable one and why? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: You're right, it has two sources. But one of them (worldatlas.com) does not cite its metodology nor sources and basically it's replicating the data from the other source (seguridadjusticiaypaz.org.mx). So that leaves us with only one, unofficial source. I think we need at least one official source. --Odiseo79 (talk) 16:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Seems pretty reliable to me. It's a citizens' organization in a country where this is a pressing social issue. Here is the study quoted by Forbes. (As far as I know, this is a legit "staff" writer for Forbes, not a "contributor"; see WP:RSP). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with Finnusertop. The organization seems legit; they very clearly lay out the methodology; and it's all online so anyone can verify it. What does it mean to be not "official" enough? -- irn (talk) 20:39, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The organization that authored the study seems reliable. It has published numerous statistical analyses, some of which have been covered in the Mexican press. apt-ark (talk) 05:01, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:28, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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 * leaning delete Unless there is some ongoing and reliable source for this, it needs to be deleted. Murder rates change, a lot, from year to year. I would also have to question whether simply reformating the data from a single source avoids a copyright violation. Mangoe (talk) 14:37, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep, while the article is very much incomplete, the topic is legitimate and the few meager sources are reliable too. Instead, add tags as appropriate to the article and help improve it! Shushugah (talk) 02:10, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Simple and encyclopedic subject that has been covered by tons. Stand alone article is warranted. Sdmarathe (talk) 04:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - stand alone article is indeed warranted here.BabbaQ (talk) 14:29, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Satisfies LISTN. A search for "murder capital of the world" or even "murder capital" produces a lot of sources. There are also studies for the murder rates in major cities, so even without the sources in the article, it would be possible to compile a list. James500 (talk) 12:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


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