Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of clubs and societies in Liège


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The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-17 20:55Z 

List of clubs and societies in Liège

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Just a list of clubs in a small city- is wikipedia supposed to be the yellow pages Peter Rehse 01:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC) Individual chapters of national and international organizations are usually not notable enough to warrant a separate article unless sufficient notability is established through reliable sources. However, chapter information is welcome for inclusion into wikipedia in list articles as long as only verifiable information is included. The way I see it, the page will evolve over time from a list of external links into a much shorter list of internal links as a result of each section being covered by an article. Pgr94 08:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a directory. Also, for future references, it's a good idea not to treat the nomination as a "delete" !vote (if you nominate an article, we're pretty sure you want it deleted). --Wafulz 04:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Useful and allowed by WP policy:
 * The "chapter information" thing applies to something like "list of scouting troops" or "list of flag-twirling brigades" or something similar. It doesn't apply to "list of things in a city". Also, that criteria applies to non-profit organizations, which are clearly not the majority here. --Wafulz 15:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Pgr94. Mathmo Talk 10:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. My understanding of the source posted by Pgr94 is for lists of chapters, e.g. the Liege chapter of Hells Angels could agreeably sit in a List of Chapters of Hells Angels in Belgium, but not in a list of clubs and societies in Liege. If my understanding is flawed, please let me know, as I'm keen to continue to develop my understanding of WP process. --Dweller 15:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure I fully understand what you mean. If you're saying it's ok to group by subject but not to group by location, then by my reading the policy doesn't actually appear to say that.  PS interesting choice of example :-)  Pgr94 15:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * lol. I don't know many organisations that call themselves "chapters" other than HA, lol. I think it's an Americanism. Anyway, I think it's arguable either way. --Dweller 15:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete as violating WP:NOT as an indiscriminate list. The policy quoted User:Pgr94 is intended as, for example, The Boy Scouts of America article can have a list (in the main article or seperately depending on how long the list is) of local branches that are not notable in themselves. Nuttah68 20:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a directory. Although a lot of work has gone into this, it doesn't appear to be salvageable. Perhaps it could be put on a Web site. The authors could easily go to a free blog service like Google's and set it up as one or more blog posts, then revise as needed, although the real work would be in getting people to that Web page. Pgr94, the use of the word "Individual" in the quote you cite clearly indicates (although it doesn't explicitly state) that the rule concerns individual chapters of organizations within a list of chapters of that organization. If the word "Individual" were not there, much less the first word in the sentence, you'd have a better case. "Individual" clearly is used to emphasize the difference between local chapters and national/international organizations.Noroton 05:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC) (edited)
 * Delete As some have already noted it violates WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. Even if it was improved and enlarged the fundamental problem would still exist. Pax:Vobiscum 18:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. This list covers too many non-notable entities. John Vandenberg 05:49, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.