Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of clubs in Bahrain


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

List of clubs in Bahrain

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The list is perfect for a Bahrain telephone directory, but its presence here is pure WP:LISTCRUFT. Pastor Theo (talk) 00:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your comment. I am not the first one to create such groups, and there is no reason that this article should be deleted. There are articles like this for List of clubs in Egypt and List of clubs in India. If the latter two are perfectly fine with Wikipedia policy, then this article should have no problem. You claim that this is suitable for telephone directories, but there are many list of these kinds in wikipedia such as list of airlines, shopping malls and movie theaters. Canadian (talk) 01:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:WAX. Just because other, similar articles exist, does not mean that this one cannot be deleted. The deletion of this article might even set a new precedent for deleting similar articles via AfD. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I have nominated List of clubs in Egypt for deletion; the List of clubs in India is a redirect to List of football clubs in India--also on shaky ground, perhaps. Drmies (talk) 17:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I am very sorry if the nomination of this article created ill will; that was clearly not my intention. However, I need to point out that your argument for its inclusion runs afoul of WP:OTHERSTUFF. Pastor Theo (talk) 01:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually the clubs named are not in a directory fashion at all. The clubs named are some of the most important clubs in Bahrain. Sorry, if you are not well acquainted with Bahrain, but the country of 650, 000 has well over 500 clubs, but these clubs are the ones that have the most clout and are commonly seen in newspapers. Take these examples, out of the aforementioned population of 650, 000 there are 100, 000 Indians, and another 100, 000 people from Bangladesh and Pakistan. There are some 50, 0000 Westerners. The clubs chosen are balanced and play a pivotal role in the social affairs of Bahrain. Case in the point that I have not written night clubs or bars. These organizations stated play a very important role in the everyday life of these expat communities. Hope this makes you change your mind. The article, albeit being short being labeled as with deletion is wholly a misunderstanding on the basis of the wikipedia community to know about other counties. Based on this, it would be most proper to remove the "delete tag." Canadian (talk) 01:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The template announcing this AfD will be removed at the conclusion of the discussion. And I would ask that you please do not remove it while the AfD is currently underway; I already reverted an attempt to remove the template. Pastor Theo (talk) 02:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As I have state above. This list does not blatantly name clubs that sprung up, but discriminates for the clubs in Bahrain that have contributed the most socially and are attended by a wide populace. Canadian (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia operates on consensus, if everyone else who views this AfD !votes to keep it, then the consensus is keep, and it will be kept. However, in its current state, it probably won't survive this AfD. So instead of bickering over Wikipedia's systematic bias, go forth and find some reliable sources which clearly show why the clubs are notable in the context of Bahrain. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 13:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete--I don't see how this is notable, anything else than a directory. This explanation here actually makes it worse, since it begs the question of verifiability. The Lions Club has contributed to the social life in Manama (BTW, you might want to add that those are cities)--oh? how do you prove that? Drmies (talk) 02:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I guess I added why these clubs are important in playing a role that helps expats live in a foreign country. So I guess, the entry has been somewhat fixed. Canadian (talk) 15:27, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Whilst a certain degree of notability is asserted, it is totally unverified, and potentially unverifiable. Fails even as a directory, as the article consist of nothing more than a list of redlinked clubs, with no indication of why any of them have any notability. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 16:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Explanations have been added to why a certain club in important.Canadian (talk) 00:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep This article has been modified to suit the needs of a Wikipedia user. This includes adding explanations for why a certain clubs plays an important role. Canadian (talk) 00:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete the sources do not prove the topic's notability in the context of Bahrain. Most of the sources, if they even mention the clubs listed, only mention them briefly, and in passing. Much of the text is still original reasearch, and is poorly sourced, failing WP:RS and WP:V. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete not notable nor verifiable. There are other similar articles created at the same time, List of beaches in Bahrain, List of restaurant chains in Bahrain, List of parks and gardens in Bahrain, List of movie theatres in Bahrain, List of hotels in Bahrain, and my favorite List of supermarket chains in Bahrain.  Some of these were tagged as not notable, but the originator reverted that.  Should these be deleted as well?  Jmcnamera (talk) 13:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep if one knows the social situation in Bahrain, a country with a population of 640, 000 where half of the populations is make out of expats, then this article would be very notable. Canadian (talk) 02:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Indented !vote because user has already !voted. --Patar knight - chat/ contributions 02:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve Jenuk1985  |  Talk  01:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.