Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of commercial voice over IP network providers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 23:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

List of commercial voice over IP network providers

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As per discussion on Talk Page this article is redundant to the VoIP Companies category and does not add any additional value other than to help spammers -- ErnestVoice (User) (Talk) 16:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A list and a complementary category are both useful. For the list, additional information can be added. I think perhaps we should say explicitly as a guideline that the should usually be both constructed as alternative means of navigation, unless there is some special reason otherwise. DGG (talk) 19:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. I've been tracking this article for a while and it appears to be a spam magnet and provides little additional information. Calltech (talk) 19:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete this page as it is constructed and titled currently. The page has never had any useful information, other than being an index to Wikipedia articles, and because of its limitation of including only Wiki-linked companies, it's also misleading in terms of market representation, but apparently used as such in referring articles. It may be useful if expanded to include information of VoIP technology (protocols, hardware, etc.) used to provide service and perhaps other information, but this should not exclude conventional telephone operators as most telephone operators already use VoIP by now for some aspects in their networks. Further it should not be limited to commercial providers either, since the focus of the article is 'VoIP', not business, apparently. Kbrose (talk) 16:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per the fact that categories and lists are complementary, not redundant. "Redundancy" of a list with a category is not a valid reason to delete. The list already contains country information, which cannot be included in the category (without splitting up the category and making it harder to navigate). Also, "spammers" can target any article, including Voice over Internet Protocol, so this is not a valid reason to delete either. Finally, "an index to Wikipedia articles" is one of the stated purposes of lists, so lack of other useful information is not a valid reason to delete either. DHowell (talk) 05:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, the additional information is useless cruft because if I wish to know what countries a VoIP operates in I can just look in the article Benefix (talk) 18:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete A list and a complementary category are both useful, but Wikipedia is not the place. It is not "Encyclopedic". Not only that, the information within is in a constant state of flux, with various offerings changing by the day. Appropriate subject for a Web page someplace, but not at Wikipedia. Proxy User (talk) 18:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.