Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of computer and video game collector and limited editions (fourth nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was  k eep. - Mailer Diablo 11:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

List of computer and video game collector and limited editions

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This article was deleted at this misnamed (it was actually the third one) AfD. DRV overturned for a very simple reason -- the article was never tagged for deletion. This creates a circumstance very unfair to any regular editor of the article, whose only notice would be that tag. Please always remember to tag articles when you nominate them! This is a procedural listing, so I abstain. Xoloz 16:17, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. --- RockMFR 19:25, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is not an indiscriminate list.  Most video and computer games come out in a single edition; the number with collector and limited editions (as defined by the article, discounting "special editions" that don't actually offer anything over a regular edition) is not unreasonably large.  The list is not unmaintainable; it is nearly complete as it stands right now, and the items currently in the list need never change, as it's historical information.  The list is useful; it's thoroughly annotated (which eliminates the most common reason for list deletion, that a simple unannotated list is better as a category) and collects information in one place that a user would otherwise have to collate from dozens upon dozens of other articles.  This seems, to me, exemplary of an encyclopedic list.  Powers T 21:17, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The first AfD was justified in it's consensus as the article was but a stub as the time of deletion. Building from that an infinitely better article was produced that addressed the concerns of it being indiscriminate, unmaintainable, or useless. The 2nd AfD and consensus reflected these improvements and I'm here to support the article once again and highlight it's worth and notability to wikipedia.  The intro makes it clear what a CE or LE is (and thus what the list aims to include), and in conjunction with the request "only NA released games are listed" - makes for a concise, reasonably sized, easily maintained (as one should only need to edit the article as a new LE is released) and defined list.  The information provided in each entry is NOT found in the individual games' articles on wikipedia, and even if it were, a single page list is a far more efficient means of providing that info to users. The notability of CE and LE's could be understood by seeing the numerous articles that are written on major high traffics sites like IGN - sometimes multiple articles by the same website about the same CE (see Bioshock as a recent example here, here, and here - which you can double for all the 360 version pages). Deusfaux 21:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete special editions should be convered in the game's indivdiual article. They need not be described in a separate article. hbdragon88 04:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Powers and Deusfaux. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 05:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep reviewing the list provides a detailed breakdown of the contents of each limited edition, the condition under which it was limited (i.e. pre-order, etc) and is thoughtfully organized. At 75 items the list is certainly manageable, especially since, as Powers pointed out, the entries are historical and won't change. Should the list get too large, there are several ways to break it down into a manageable size, though List of fictional cats certainly shows that even large lists can have their place on Wikipedia. Cheers, Lanky ○ Yell ○ 13:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Powers and Deusfaux. The scope of the list is very clearly and specifically defined, so the list isn't a huge unwieldy beast. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon joe 18:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.  -- Pax:Vobiscum 09:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep — This article clearly shows how valued video games are, to the point where they become collector and limited editions. Moreover, it does a great job of showing that it is notable, rather than saying that it is notable. Taric25 01:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I would actually be much more interested in seeing this organized by DATE rather than platform. I think that the progression of limited editions is more relevant than which system they roll out on. Slavlin 05:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.