Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of computer and video games


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was No consensus  Sceptr e  ( Talk  ) 10:13, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

List of computer and video games
This page is a list of lists that are all included in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_games. -- Wikipedical 02:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Update: I can see there are many supporters of this page, but I would like to clarify my position. I nominated this for deletion because it is an incomplete and selective list of lists. Categories are useful because they are in a sense 'list of lists,' and they are also more than that. I believe there is no point in trying to revise this page.

In response to recent discussion, I would like to point out that there are zero redpages on this page. -- Wikipedical 20:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Mind you, thats because you created the redlinked List of ZX Spectrum games after the AfD debate started. Thanks for your contribution. -- Saberwyn - The Zoids  Expansion Project 20:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Keep

 * 1)  Keep as the gateway to all our game lists. -- JJay 05:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Keep. There is no way for a category to encompass the existing sub-sections on the page, nor to include redlinks that indicate articles that need to be written. Turnstep 15:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Keep per Turnstep, looks like a useful list. feydey 15:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Keep &mdash; categories are often useless for multi-variate data. Some of the sub-lists include multiple parameters per game, so they can't be converted to lists without destroying information. This page organizes those lists nicely. &mdash; RJH 16:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Keep as this list is specific, contrary to the category which lists List of board games and other topics unrelated to computer and video games. Those interested in CVGs should be able to look this up. Punkmorten 19:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 6)  Keep - Allows more articles from redlinks, which is not possible with categories. Andros 1337 23:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) keep please this list is useful Yuckfoo 03:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Keep. Good navigation aid. (Also, why does this article's AFD need these non-standard 'keep' and 'delete' sections?) HollyAm 00:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) * Buggered if I know, Wikipedical reorganised it. Highly unconventional. -- Saberwyn
 * 10) *Maybe they want to see a running tally of the "votes"? Which kind of de-emphasizes the flow of a discussion. Turnstep 04:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Keep. It is a useful list. Carioca 03:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) Keep this useful list. Categories may not work that well. --Andylkl [ talk! 11:22, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete

 * 1) Delete.  -- Wikipedical 02:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Delete Pintele Yid 03:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Delete delist this one please. The Categorization project is a better way to go. Atrian 05:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Delete - this is what categories are for. Reyk 06:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Delete categorize WhiteNight T 08:54, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Delete This is what we have categories for. Werdna648T/C\@ 09:27, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Delete horrendous listcruft. Stifle 21:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Delete. I almost voted keep, but this article really doesn't add anything that categories can't do, other than showing off red-links, which I am generally against anyway.  It's easy for someone to add links when they write a new article. —Cleared as filed. 21:46, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Delete Perhaps we should have a List of lists of lists of lists of computer and video games? Get rid of this, make a nice new shiny category. And as for redlinks, if you're not willing to get up off your ass and write the article, why throw down a link?--Lairor 18:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) *Because you may know nothing about the article beyond the fact that it deserves explanation. -- Saberwyn - The Zoids  Expansion Project 22:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Delete. Pavel Vozenilek 00:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) Delete - Redundant. --J. Nguyen 03:47, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 13) Delete would be a long list, categorize it --Jaranda wat's sup 00:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 14) Delete. unmanageable list. --Madchester 02:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Move

 * 1)  Move to List of lists of computer and video games.  This is a meta list but the current article title doesn't make this clear. Cyde Weys votetalk 21:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * This is a very good point although this new page name is somewhat cloudy. -- Wikipedical 20:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Just in case this is ambiguous I'd like my vote to be counted as a Keep if a move action is decided against. --Cyde Weys votetalk 04:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) Delete this list of lists. Better served by a category, and appears to offer no imporvements over categorisation. Saberwyn - The  Zoids  Expansion Project 06:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) * On second thoughts, the below Keep justifications make sense. -- Saberwyn
 * 3) **On third thoughts, I don't know anymore. The breakup of the discussion doesn't help the discussion at all. Abstain. -- Saberwyn - The Zoids  Expansion Project 07:43, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.