Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of computer hardware manufacturers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Rjd0060 (talk) 23:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

List of computer hardware manufacturers

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Wikipedia is not a directory. This article is just a collection of internal and external links. I believe it would be better served as a category. Such as the already existing Category:Computer_hardware_companies swa  q  04:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Categories do not replace lists.  Lists do not replace categories.  They are separate.  Please see our policy on categories, lists and navigational templates.  Overlapping between the three types is not a reason to delete; if anything, this list needs to be improved to provide more navigability and read less like it's sister category, but that's not a deletion argument, as it solves the issue without deleting it. Celarnor Talk to me  04:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: If you have an issue with the way the list is organized (i.e, this one is by what component manufactured), then you could fork the list to another page and redo the navigation criteria, such as List of computer hardware manufacturers by country or List of computer hardware manufacturers by stock price, or whatever criteria you see fit. This practice is well-documented and used widely in practice, and is able to be done so because wiki is not paper.  The List of countries list and it's sister list is an example example of this practice. Celarnor Talk to me  04:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Lets just suppose we did simply go with the Category as Nom suggests. Ok, which companies in that cat would be keyboard makers? webcam makers? I believe this Article does add something beyond what a Cat can do easily, thus my Keep. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  05:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - This currently seems to be a list of sub-assembly manufacturers for PC type equipment. It excludes all sorts of other computers and components - from large mainframes and handhelds to cables and sockets.  Since its focus is ill-defined and not sourced, it should go. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This is an improvement argument, not a deletion argument; this is Wikipedia, so you are free to edit and improve the list to add component types and manufacturers that you see fit. Celarnor Talk to me 17:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Let me illustrate the problem by listing some of the computers which I possess:
 * a Thornton slide-rule. I think still have a circular one too.
 * a Casio pocket computer
 * a Chinese abacus
 * an Atari 800 and Atari ST
 * a HP 95LX and HP 200LX
 * sundry laptops from Acer, Toshiba and Fujitsu-Siemens
 * a large book containing logarithm tables
 * countless embedded processors in the microwave, oven, clocks, video, DVD player, washing machine etc
 * the trip computer in my car (which will have lots of embedded processors too.
 * my mobile phone which performs computer functions such as calculation
 * much paper and many pens
 * If I made it my life's work, I might list a million or more of the companies which were involved in making such things and the list would still be incomplete. The list only seems sensible currently because it is ridiculously narrow in scope.  It has obviously been written for the gamer/hobbyists who build their own PCs in the USA - people who seem to have no clue about the rich history of computing machinery and its current use in business, science and technology. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:42, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't the large mainframes and handhelds type of thing belong on List of computer system manufacturers Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  11:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They would belong on both. The systems list is much better because it refers to the end-product and the companies are well-understood, like IBM.  This list is vaguer because it is referring to component parts for which there will be thousands of sub-contractors.  And it has a domestic PC focus which seems ignorant of enterprise-level computing - racking, routers, UPS, scanners, SANs, tape libraries, etc, etc.  Colonel Warden (talk) 13:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep this list is necessary . Pearll&#39;s sun (talk) 13:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Necessary for what? Colonel Warden (talk) 08:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep with a bit of improvement. I don't see any reason why this list should be deleted; in this case a category doesn't replace the list. Although it does need some cleanup/expansion, it's definitely a good list to keep around. -- Jamie  S93  14:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as above, this list is not being used as a directory, so I'm not buying the argument for deletion. (jarbarf) (talk) 03:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, lists and categories are complementary, not redundant. For example, lists can provide alternative sorting (like in this case) or short descriptions or references. --Reinoutr (talk) 19:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * '"Keep"'I found it useful when doing an industry analysis on computer hardware manufacturers... Gives you an idea as to what's fragmented/concentrated in the industry. Good starting point. Then again, I realize wikipedia isn't a business database either.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.