Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of concept albums (themed)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

List of concept albums (themed)
What separates a themed concept album from a well-assembled record by someone with an idiosyncratic range of topical songwriting interest? This page is entirely uncited, mostly uncitable, original research, and vastly fancruft. People want their favorite artists to be intelligent, and so as fans they often slap the now near-meaningless label of "concept album" on a given work so that it seems more Important and Impressive. That is fancruft, and very usually unsupported. Not to mention non-NPOV.

Amber388 17:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * On first look, I disagree with many of the entries but I don't disagree with the idea of the article as such, although it may be an unneccesary overlap with other articles. The word "themed" bothered me a bit but I'm aware of albums where the overriding concept was the recording method rather than the lyrical content so it's not so outlandish. An album is a concept album if the artist says it is so if there is a source available for the listed albums making it clear that the artist has made such a statement then that must stand as verification and remove any POV concerns. I don't think this requires deletion but it requires a lot of citation work. Is it worth it? I'm neutral on that.... Ac@osr 20:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This page should be kept because many people like to research themed concept albums. However I would say it needs some editing and citations.
 *  AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.  Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Krakatoa  Katie  06:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete How do you determine what is and is not a 'themed-album' -- it's inherently POV and would probably qualify as original research. Pure listcruft.  --The Way 06:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as a combination of an inherently POV list, a list with very shaky criteria for inclusion which would make it hard to maintain (most surf-rock albums would be included as being about "surfing", "cars", "girls" or "surf culture", for example, and we'll leave aside the fact that most hip-hop albums are about "partying", "drugs", "girls", "money" or something along those lines) and also for having a soupçon of OR to the whole thing - I doubt that many of these acts actually believed they were making a concept album at the time, and the term almost certainly dates from later than some of these in the list, which makes it very odd. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't think a list of concept albums would be worth having anyway, but this one is so bizarrely all-inclusive as to be completely meaningless. BTLizard 10:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per underlying POV in the articles concept and theme (pun intended). Some albums have musical style themes, some philosophical themes, and ALL of them have the theme of being what the artist wants to express in a complete album.  Few musicians produce random assortments of singles after their first album. -Markeer 14:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete The exclusion of certain well known concept albums, such as some listed in Concept Album points to POV. That article covers key albums, and Category:Concept albums covers a larger set.  No need for this list.  *Sparkhead  16:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Markeer. Danny Lilithborne 22:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Making a list of albums that are concept albums but don't have a distinct storyline is inescapably POV. This is just a list of OR interpretations of records. There's already a concept albums category and an article on the subject -- I sl a y So lo mo n  |  t a l k  23:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment If this goes through, should List of concept albums (narrative) be moved back to List of concept albums? –Unint 15:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure. Why not? And we can also then put the few truly valid entries from the (themed) list onto that page too. Amber388 16:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Hard to define. On many pop albums, most songs are about love, but they aren't included? And all christmas albums are concept albums? / J 1982 00:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Baleet per just about everyone here :) 80.41.228.7 11:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.