Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per WP:SNOW. (NAC) --J.Mundo (talk) 19:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360

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Article appears to be a composite of games that fit into Category:Cooperative video games as well as List of Xbox 360 games. Proper usage of the Coop and 360 categories when creating articles renders this article unneccesary. -- TRTX T / C 00:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I am also nominating the following related pages because they fall under the same situation. A list article is simply repeating the info already available through the usage of the Xbox 360 games category:
 * -- TRTX T / C 01:01, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep and change article to use sortable tables: List of Xbox 360 games uses a sortable table, something that can't be done with categories. As for List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360, which does not, I'd propose changing the style in which the information is presented to be in a sortable table. Then there would be no reason to delete either article. --Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 05:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per Lightsup55. Categories and lists serve different purposes, and lists are much more friendly to navigate, especially for readers who aren't familiar with the category system.  This is a legitimate list topic.  It could of course be improved, e.g., with sortable tables.--ragesoss (talk) 17:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 00:45, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep for List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360 and strong keep for List of Xbox 360 games. Categories and lists can co-exist, and lists can accomplish things that categories cannot (read WP:LIST). The co-op list is kind of an OCAT list and can probably be cleaned up and turned into a sortable table. However, I think I would only support that if the intent was to split from the already-huge main Xbox 360 list. MuZemike  ( talk ) 01:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Couldn't a "Coop" column simply be added to List of Xbox 360 games? (Sidenote, I can't get the latter page to load.) SharkD (talk) 04:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Just because the article title and contents may not match up does not mean it needs to be deleted, just means it needs fixed. I also like the sortable columns idea.  I used to be big on pushing categories over list pages however list pages allow for more detailed information (for example release dates and publishers), in one list.  Being we cannot cross populate categories (I.E. select all articles in lets say a category on EA Games and cross select against xbox 360 games, this actually adds a lot more value than would meet the eye.  Does need some cleanup work though.  Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 15:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep at least the List of Xbox 360 games, and probably the other one, too. I like the idea of the "co-op" column combining the functionality of the list of co-op games into the article for the list of all games, but I think that the List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360 has enough important information on its own to still be useful as a separate article.--Jtle515 (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - my initial thought was "well just put a 'co-op' column in the existing Xbox games list". But then, wouldn't we then need columns for "competitive multiplayer" or "single player only"? So how about changing this list to a sortable "List of Xbox games by gameplay mode"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marasmusine (talk • contribs) 19:31, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm... Yes, yes! I think you've got something here. I'd agree to that. So... I vote to move List of cooperative games for the Xbox 360 to List of Xbox 360 games by gameplay mode and add gameplay modes as a sortable table --Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 23:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support move - Good idea. SharkD (talk) 01:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 15:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - At first I thought the move idea discussed above sounded good but as Kreider and Jtle515 point out there are man different possible implementations of co-op gameplay which would make inclusion in a complete table of games problematic. Raitchison (talk) 16:27, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note - I threw together a quick and dirty table on the article's Talk Page but I think it could be better, perhaps someone wants to take a crack at improving it before we implement in the article. Raitchison (talk) 17:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong keep someone should explain to the nominator what a merge tag is: and how to use it. this is the wrong forum to suggest an article me merged. travb (talk) 21:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.