Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of countries by Nobel laureates per capita


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 12:26, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

List of countries by Nobel laureates per capita

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This page is original research, problematically interpreting the given countries of origin for Nobel laureates with current population estimates of the countries that have changed over the years when laureates received their prize. This article does not assert importance of such a list; further, many prizes are shared, so the statistics don't work anyway. Quigley (talk) 15:26, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: ZOMG, complete OR. Marginally better than the one my old physics master used to refer to List of dogs in Battersea dogs home by rainfall in Melbourne on day admitted to home, but if the user has some point to prove about Nobel laureates, populations and per capita income, he can write a research paper on it.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment LOL!!! Pristino (talk) 22:16, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Unencyclopedic article filled with numbers derived by original research and synthesis using gravely flawed methods. It looks at total prizes, then compares to present populations. The countries varied in relative size over the decades the prizes have been given out. The authors made arbitrary decisions regarding how much weight is given when a prize is split several ways. Edison (talk) 19:29, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The original authors are the BBC, which is properly sourced in the article. The per capita bit was done by Wikipedia editors. Pristino (talk) 21:38, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You just mentioned it. List of Nobel prizes by country is a perfectly reasonable list - I'm sure we already have it's equivalent somewhere. The OR is adding 'by capita' - the creator has sourced the population of the modern country (with present day boundaries) in 2010, then divided the 2010 population by the number of prizewinners as ascribed by the BBC to each country to make some kind of a point - as evidenced by the criticism section. That is classic OR - the BBC remarked on the relative distribution per country.  No-one appears to have ever done research on prizes per head of population.  The editor himself (and no-one else) appears to have arbitrarily decided to calculate all the Czech winners based on the 2010 population of the Czech republic, despite the fact that 4 of the 5 won the prize while it was Czechoslovakia. Wikipedia editors are not supposed to do this kind of thing. Classic OR.Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've completely removed the OR bits from the article and moved it to List of countries by Nobel laureates. Maybe the table should be merged into List of Nobel laureates by country? Pristino (talk) 22:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would not be inappropriate I think.Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Interesting, but unencyclopedic. Pristino (talk) 22:15, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * With the recent moves there are two pages under discussion. My vote is to delete the redirect List of countries by Nobel laureates per capita since this is a rather arbitrary list with all the problems described by Edison, the target article has nothing about "per capita" nor should it. The article under the new title List of countries by Nobel laureates should be redirected to List of Nobel laureates by country since it is essentially a condensation of the same information which does not require a separate page. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of Nobel laureates by country. After recent edits they basically address the same issue. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 19:26, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.