Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of countries by statehood (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Speedy Delete per criteria G4. The article began as a copy-paste recreation of the version deleted at AFD on 31 October, and thus qualifies for Speedy Deletion. Subsequent edits have not sufficiently remedied the problems noted at the previous AFD. If you disagree with that deletion, please refer to the procedures at Deletion Review. I am also salting for two weeks. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 19:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I add that a really good way to make the case for this article would be to create a userspace draft of it, showing how the new version complies with the relevant policies. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 19:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

List of countries by statehood
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What a terrible article. It is almost entirely original research. A state is a modern concept dating back to the 17th century but here we have "states" going back to 3200 BC?? Also what does the Roman Republic have to do with the modern Italian state? And the Sumer civilization with today's Irak? Laurent (talk) 12:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC) Laurent (talk) 12:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 16:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * STRONG DELETE, wasn't this or a very similar page just AfD'ed and deleted a week ago? Yes, here Articles for deletion/List of countries by statehood. Why is this article back? Delete and Salt.  He  iro  05:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - There is a list like this: List of countries... but every possible permutation of that list is not at all helpful for readers, creates confusion, unsynchronizes topics, and is generally a classic example of the desire to create pages rather than information. All of this would be much better covered in the list that already exists... which would be enough, but in this particular case there's almost no data here in any case. Keep in mind this is Articles for deletion, not Topics [ideas or possible moved page permutations] for deletion. Shadowjams (talk) 10:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)


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