Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of county roads in Volusia County, Florida


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The result was   keep. Courcelles 00:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

List of county roads in Volusia County, Florida

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List does not cover a notable topic (ie, a topic the subject of significant discussion in reliable independent sources.) The entries on the list are themselves non-notable, and a list of non-notable streets is essentially a street directory, which Wikipedia explicitly frowns on. Initial prod was removed with rationale "No reason to delete this list!" - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe you're confusing a directory, which lists events or business, from a gazetteer, which lists the beginning, end, and major crossroads and towns of routes. Wikipedia incorporates elements of a gazetteer. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  19:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Strongly Oppose --- There IS no reason to delete this list! Perhaps some of the streets that already have articles can be moved to WikiProject U.S. Streets, but to delete a whole list of county roads is an asinine thing to do. DanTD (talk) 05:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Calling something asinine is not a very good argument. NotARealWord (talk) 07:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sorry but it is, and many below this list, starting with User:Floydian understand this. And while I've had my disagreements with them on which county roads are notable enough for an article and which ones aren't, the fact that the Volusia County has these roads under their jurisdiction is notable. Just because the existance of a list of these roads may not mean anything to the nominee, doesn't mean it's not notable. DanTD (talk) 22:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - Something similar to the "keep" argument from here. The main "keep" argument was that it was supposed to be a list of notable shopping malls. By that, I think lists of roads should be limited to notable ones. Since this is just a county, not a state, I imagine there would not be enough notable roads to make a list with. If there are a significant number of notable roads, then he list should just include those. NotARealWord (talk) 07:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lists have far lower expectations of notability than articles do. The notability is in the fact that this county decided that these select roads - no different than others - are very important to it. Generally when something is notable enough to the government, that they track them, number them, keep statistics of them, and keep them (where possible) in tip-top shape, it is notable enough for us. As an aside, if we pull otherstuffexists, there are hundreds of lists of county roads in a county. Not only in Florida, but in the United States, Canada, and probably even in Europe (though in a different sense) -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  16:32, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep Seems to contain a list of notable entries, or potential notable entries and has a clear inclusion criteria.  Lugnuts  (talk) 17:47, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Per USRD Notability Guidelines - While a single article on one CR may not be notable, there is a system of CR in the county, which warrants at least a list. Admrboltz (talk) 17:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - County routes are suitable to be presented in a list format.  Dough 48  72  18:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep County routes are rarely notable on their own, but a list that explains a county route system and contains information about a collection of roads that are non-notable on their own is acceptable.  V C  21:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep It's a notable topic. Kurdo777 (talk) 22:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep the topic itself is notable even if the individual items are not. WP:SNOW close, please.  Imzadi  1979   →  17:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Per USRD Notability Guidelines - While a single article on one CR may not be notable, there is a system of CR in the county, which warrants at least a list. (It was said way to well by Admrboltz, so I just copied his comment.) --Fredrik Coulter (talk) 21:15, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I just want to add that it's interesting that this is the only list of County Roads in Florida that DustFormsWords wants to delete. What about the other 20?  Are they in more notable Counties than this one? --Fredrik Coulter (talk) 19:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. As noted, according to the USRD notability guidelines, this is an appropriate topic and an appropriate method of presenting it. Also, Wikipedia is not paper, and things like this are perfectly suited to the Wikipedian format, even if they wouldn't ever make the cut for a "dead tree" encyclopedia. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:20, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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