Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of crisis hotlines by country


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. &mdash; J I P | Talk 18:26, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

List of crisis hotlines by country
I hesitate to nominate this because of its potential usefulness. However, I don't think it is appropriate material for Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not give medical advice and there could be legal complications of having such a document. 02:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete As above. Although the article could be modified to simply list the organisations and provide external links. Although I still say delete because as was said above, Wikipedia is not for giving medical advice. Forbsey 02:35, 20 October 2005 (UTC) Merge with Crisis hotline Forbsey 07:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, this could grow into an interesting list, mostly on whether some countries have them and how different cultures view different things as crises. Do the French have a crisis line for people who are worried they're becoming fascists?  That kind of thing.  And this is not medical advice, and since no lawyer has complained, I can't see how we have any liability for listing a bunch of hotline numbers.  Tempshill 03:49, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, hotlines can be notable. Kappa 03:52, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete currently a list of three crisis hotlines with phone numbers. We don't have a guideline in WP:NOTabout not being a phone directory but we should. This is information that would normally looked at in the yellow pages. A list of crisis hotline services linking to articles or redlinks may well be useful on the other hand. Capitalistroadster 04:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with something along the lines of Emergency telephone number. freshgavin  ΓΛĿЌ  06:19, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Very, very week Keep Reyk 06:52, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This looks like phonebook entries, not an encyclopedia article. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:08, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Wikipedia does not give medical advice. The hotlines this article is about do. &mdash; J I P | Talk 09:01, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete (or at least merge) Crisis hotline already links to such resources --Anetode 09:42, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Crisis hotline. -- Rune Welsh | &tau;&alpha;&lambda;&kappa; | Esperanza  10:41, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strongest Keep Possible This is a WP:IAR issue for me, at the very least. Readers directed to that list may be considering killing themselves. An article about Crisis Hotlines will not work. Hipocrite - &laquo; Talk &raquo; 15:18, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that's what I've been trying to say. N (t/c) 20:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per JIP. --Jacquelyn Marie 15:35, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. Trollderella 16:38, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per JIP. the wub  "?!"  17:00, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sorry, but I do not buy the whole "it is our civic duty to have this - there are people contemplating SUICIDE out there!". If they want advice, they can type this into Google. We are not the place for this. And anyway, when was the last time anyone thought of using Wikipedia to get a phone number?! Batmanand 17:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The idea is, a user might look up (for some reason) suicide or especially suicide methods, and be confronted with this link (in Template:Suicide). It's not like suicidal people actually look for help (otherwise they wouldn't really be suicidal) - it has to be thrust upon them. N (t/c) 20:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and possibly transwiki such a list to Yellowikis. Andrew pmk | Talk 19:10, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, possibly keep information with or linked transwiki from Crisis hotline. &there4; here&hellip;&spades; 20:10, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per JIP and Hipocrite. N (t/c) 20:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Wikipedia-is-not-a-directory. Since individual crisis hotlines are unencyclopedic, the only purpose of this article is to be linked to from Template:Suicide - a function equally well or better served by an offsite link. N (t/c) 21:32, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a phone or web directory. This is not an encyclopedia article (whereas crisis hotline is, and even has some links for further reading). MCB 21:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a phonebook. --Carnildo 21:59, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Transwiki... somewhere - Wikisource, perhaps? Far too useful to simply be deleted, but not Wikipedia material. Grutness...  wha?  00:42, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * delete moral: vandalism could be potentially fatal. practical: unmaintainable, liable to be always incomplete, untimely etc. procedural: wikipedia is not a telephone directory. quality: incomplete USA biased with a touch of UK.  not worth it.  Mozzerati 20:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.