Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cultural icons of Australia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all - there is a clear consensus that "cultural icon" is not an appropriate WP:LISTCRIT. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 23:17, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

List of cultural icons of Australia

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Following the deletion of List of cultural icons of Scotland (AfD), I'd like to see if there's consensus to delete this whole family of articles. The same arguments made in the Scotland AfD apply equally to all of these; the term "cultural icon" is so vague, so subjective, and so widely and variously applied, that these lists can never be encyclopedic. Either they include every object, person, place or concept which has ever been referred to as a "cultural icon"; or else editors must engage in an unacceptable amount of original research in deciding which items to include. (For at least one of these articles, List of cultural icons of England, an editor once attempted to devise an objective selection criteria – the resulting list had just seven items, and was even more arbitrary than before.) We can, and do, provide readers with well-sourced, encyclopedic articles on the culture of Australia, culture of England, etc., but this is simply not a subject which can be boiled down into a list.

Sojourner in the earth (talk) 19:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Arts, Lists, Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Ukraine, United Kingdom, England, Wales,  and Australia. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 19:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Agreed, per review of prior "Scotland" AFD discussion Flibbertigibbets (talk) 20:40, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all it's very subjective how one decides if something is a "cultural icon". LibStar (talk) 23:18, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Unfortunately, too haphazard of a collection to be tied together. BD2412  T 02:13, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. I agree. These should be deleted. --Bduke (talk) 03:56, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect all To respective "Culture of" articles. I wonder if these could be a basis for any expansion there. I agree these aren't suitable as encyclopedia articles but they're nice to skim as an outline. Reywas92Talk 04:26, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I doubt the "Culture of" articles would contain reference to all items in the "List of cultural icons" article. LibStar (talk) 05:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Pages are a mess as the criteria for addition of icons on the page are open for wide interpretations and personal bias. BarcodeIII (talk) 05:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all As I said at Articles for deletion/List of cultural icons of Scotland (2nd nomination): I'm not seeing any proper WP:LISTCRITERIA and I'm not sure any could be constructed; a collocation like "cultural icon" being applied to something (or someone, for that matter) is no basis for a list. TompaDompa (talk) 02:11, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Dubious criteria. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 09:29, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm not incredibly familiar with list policy, to be transparent, but WP:SALAT recommends against excessively broad lists; either way, such a list as this seems ridiculous on the face of it. Would we have an article called "list of cultural icons of Malaysia" or "list of cultural icons of Indonesia"? Or a list of words in English? I struggle to think so. 223.255.225.69 (talk — Preceding undated comment added 10:30, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Well that's a conspicuously similar comment to the one made by blocked WP:SOCK at WP:Articles for deletion/List of cultural icons of Scotland (2nd nomination). TompaDompa (talk) 11:20, 11 December 2022 (UTC)


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