Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cultural monuments damaged in Nagorno-Karabakh conflict


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  13:37, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

List of cultural monuments damaged in Nagorno-Karabakh conflict

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List fails WP:GNG and WP:LISTPURP. To the best of my knowledge, none of the provided sources have discussed the topic as a group or set, and though it should be noted that I do not have access to all of them, no editor has asserted that they do contain such coverage. Further, a WP:BEFORE search has not turned up any such coverage in reliable sources.

There has been coverage of potential subsets of the list as a group or set, in particular the destruction of Armenian cultural legacy, and if there was coverage of the destruction of Azerbaijani cultural legacy it would be appropriate to group the two lists under WP:NPOV, but as with the broader topic I have been unable to identify such sources, and it appears other editors have also been unable to do so.

The list as it stands is also largely incoherent, with elements such as a "Small mosque in Armenia", without any additional details to its identification, being included. While some of this can be corrected under WP:DUE, most of it would, in the absence of reliable sources, require WP:OR to correct, in order to allow us to determine an appropriate scope of the list and criteria for inclusion.

Note: Article was nominated for deletion two months ago, with a result of "no consensus". The closer noted that the quality of the discussion was poor, and failed to address the question of whether the sources in the article sustain it in the light of WP:N, WP:RS and WP:NOR. As such, it may be advisable for participants to focus their contributions to the discussion in that direction. BilledMammal (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I pointed out the pointlessness of such a synthetic list even when this was still called "list of damaged Islamic and Azerbaijani sites during Nagorno Karabakh conflict" in the first AfD that sadly wad closed as no consensus. Even now after fixing the title and balancing the article with inclusions from the other side's woes, and a huge trim of poorly sourced inclusions by the author of current AfD the list remains a highly pretentious work, serving advocacy of state victimhood but not encyclopedia.--Armatura (talk) 14:56, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: In a topic area where discretionary sanctions apply, this is nonetheless going to be an unending snakepit of nationalist angst, even leaving aside the question of what defines a "cultural monument" -- what, every cemetery that was damaged in the the entire three-decades-plus of the conflict? -- or the issue that it was created to serve just one side. Better to just TNT it.   Ravenswing     23:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, list fails WP:GNG and WP:LISTPURP. And not enough good quality sources. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have to agree with above.217.149.166.11 (talk) 12:15, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:37, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:37, 22 December 2021 (UTC)


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