Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cultural references to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. Cbrown1023 talk 00:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

List of cultural references to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

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All the usual problems with the cultural references/popular culture lists: Mostly unsourced original research consisting of personal observations. The most notable parodies (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters, etc) can be mentioned in the main Ninja Turtles article.

Yet another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles trivia article (see Articles for deletion/Comparisons within Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Articles for deletion/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003 TV series) - allusions to other series. Saikokira 04:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete merge any notable information into TMNT article. &rArr;    SWAT Jester    On Belay!  04:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. SWATjester put it well. Realkyhick 06:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge as per SWATjester. Anthony Hit me up... 12:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not backmerge no matter of result, please!!! These leaf articles are created to remove pop-culture references from main articles, to keep them more on topic and better maintainable. For most of the time this works rather well (compared to never ending struggle to maintain these references inside them main body of the text). If you put some references back then the inevitable cycle of their accumulation, offloading into a leaf page and VfD will be only sped up.


 * While not ideal, "... in popular culture" articles work around one structural weakness of Wikipedia and until better solution is invented it is better to keep them here. Pavel Vozenilek 16:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Better here than there is a terrible excuse for keeping. The solution to a main article loaded with trivial garbage is to delete the garbage and keep deleting it, not to dump the garbage into another editors' "yard." Otto4711 17:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - per WP:NOT, these "facts" are just not of encyclopedic importance. Simply take a very harsh line with the inclusion of trivia in the main article. Moreschi Request a recording? 22:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete and do not merge - An indiscriminate collection and directory seeking to capture every time the turtles or a specific turtle is mentioned somewhere else ever. I would also strongly dispute the notion that this "solution" to the problem of garbage in main articles works well most of the time. Most of the time these trash can articles simply collect more and more garbage until they get deleted (or worse, kept on some combination of WP:ILIKEIT and WP:BHTT argument), wasting everyone's time and effort a lot more than simply policing the main article would. This accumulate-split-delete-accumulate-split-delete cycle also does nothing to address the problem that this kind of trivial crap represents. If the presence of this sort of information lowers the quality of the main article in particular and Wikipedia in general, then article after article full of awful "cultural references to..." and "...in popular culture" itms also lowers the general quality of Wikipedia. Well-written articles on cultural representations can be done but keeping this sort of crap around as the dominant example of how such articles exist does not encourage editors to write actual good articles on the topic and contribute to the endless cycle of crap. No one seems to much like these sorts of articles but time after time instead of taking a stand against them people vote to keep them because actually addressing the problem they represent they deem too difficult. The "better solution" that already exists is to delete the articles as they come up and remove the crap from the articles before it accumulates to the point of inspiring a split. Otto4711 17:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Completely unreferenced trivia. --Mus Musculus 15:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete There should be a "Trivia wiki" for this kind of thing Croxley 21:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TRIV. However, this is not OR, which refers to information that is inherently unverifiable.  If you want to verify these tidbits, just look at/listen to the relevant film/comic/song.  -- Black Falcon 18:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.