Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of current Australian Football League coaches


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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:13, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

List of current Australian Football League coaches

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I am also nominating the following related page for the same reasons stated below:

Falls a bit into INDISCRIMINATE and Listcruft. Doesn't really serve any purpose outside of what's available in each AFL season article, i.e. 2017 AFL season. Relevant information such as seasons as coach, winning stats, other clubs coached, club as player etc. are (should) all be available at each coaches Wiki page. No references on page to establish notability for why it should be a standalone page, and I honestly cannot think of any ref that would be applicable to how article should be a standalone list. Flickerd (talk) 04:43, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. My response may contain a bit of WP:OTHER but it seems that the nomination is mainly WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Indiscriminate doesn't apply - the lists are completely defined and limited in scope.  It allows the user to compare each coach (not available on individual coach pages) and see previous positions, years in the job etc which aren't relevant to put in the current season article.  Listcruft is an essay, not a policy and I'm not sure which of the 12 points is infringed.  And to my Other Stuff argument... almost every other league in the world has a list like this: List of current National Basketball Association head coaches, List of current NCAA Division I FCS football coaches, List of current NCAA Division I men's basketball coaches, List of Major League Soccer coaches (not just current, includes all-time list too), List of current National Football League head coaches and List of current Premier League and English Football League managers. The-Pope (talk) 07:57, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Not at all WP:IDONTLIKEIT, but just my interpretation of what was linked to in the original nomination and notability considering the current articles have zero refs. I've had a look at List of current Premier League and English Football League managers which is a WP:FL and I'm open to withdrawing the nomination (may wait a few days first to see other !votes first just in case) if people believe the AFL pages can emulate that page, for example, I do think that some of the information in the list is still excessive which are available on each coaches Wiki page (i.e. assistant coach club/player club) and the list should solely focus on their current role as a senior coach of the club (which all of the listed examples only focus on current role as senior coach), and not entail their whole career. Flickerd (talk) 11:36, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 00:35, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.   C Thomas3   (talk) 20:08, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep. I don't see any Wikipedia policy being violated, and these are two useful and notable lists. The extensive data in each does not duplicate any other collected/list material on Wikipedia. The Women's list is particularly helpful. If citations are desired, add citations. SunChaser (talk) 09:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I withdraw this nomination per my secondary comment and precedence of other sport lists, with the lists needing to be improved (which I aim to do). Flickerd (talk) 09:16, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment, a bit late but anyway, funny that the nominator doesn't cite WP:LISTN - "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources,...", i wonder if there are any out there in gsearch land, oh heres one, after a less than 30second search - "Rating the AFL coaches in 2017: Asleep at the wheel or in cruise control?" from The Age, and another from Sporting News - "AFL coaches pressure index: Who's safe and who's in the gun?". Coolabahapple (talk) 10:09, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


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