Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of dadaistic pieces


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 02:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

List of dadaistic pieces

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Article is not a list of dadaistic pieces but a list of composers and an artist. The subject is also completely open to interpretation. Who’s to say what “dadaistic” means? Even experts conflict in their interpretations of this. This page obviously has no usable content and is original research. S.dedalus 00:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nomination. --S.dedalus 00:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, rename, expand - The principles of the Dada movement are pretty clearly understood, even if artists and critics don't agree 100% about everything. I think an article on notable Dada works (in various media) is useful and can be clearly and objectively assembled.  Though, if the page isn't expanded, the page on Dada can just include a section of representative works. Torc2 00:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete; just more flotsam and jetsam here. +ILike2BeAnonymous 01:10, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with having a list of dadaistic pieces, but such a list would have to use reliable sources, and have a set of reasonable inclusion criteria. None of this information is sourced, and even if it were, there would not be enough information yet to justify an article separate from Dada. Nick Graves 03:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Hopeless. This will never be a decent list. --Folantin 07:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment If you're just saying the list will always be incomplete, the AfD discussion of List of musical works in unusual time signatures pretty much establishes the a precedent that reason isn't sufficient for deletion. A list like this can be acknowledged as perpetually incomplete and somewhat subjective and still be a worthwhile resource.  I know that when I was studying music, a list of key representative pieces for genres like this would have been enormously helpful.  We just need to be diligent about establishing a clear purpose and maintaining the articles. Torc2 09:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The list is not just perpetually incomplete, it’s also original research, and original research gets deleted on Wikipedia. --S.dedalus 20:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, no sources, no article. Moreschi Talk 09:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions.   —David Eppstein 22:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, add to Dada if any missing. Nomination is neither correct nor fair (as list is now), but this is still not needed as a searate article. Johnbod 22:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete better as category.  ALKIVAR &trade; &#x2622; 16:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Question - If we convert all these lists to categories, what would be the ref criteria and where/how would we source them? (Real question, I'm not trying to be argumentative.)  Torc2 05:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose, as per Categorization, the inclusion of an article in a hypothetical  would be established with consensus on a page by page basis. (I suspect that Dadaistic music would not be the most supportable category anyway though.) There is, however, already a Category:Minimalistic compositions. For most works included in that category there are ample sources that can probably be found in the Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians and other music reference books. When in doubt works should probably not be included. --S.dedalus 20:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


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