Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of deaths in Oz (TV series)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. W.marsh 14:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

List of deaths in Oz (TV series)

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Fancruft, content fork. Blueboy96 16:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC) coment but still keep If we put it there it will overtake the article. Real ensyclopedias don't have everything on one page. 14:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC) MJN SEIFER
 * Delete: Cruft. Merge important ones with the shows article if you really find it necessary. - Rjd0060 17:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: OR, probably not sourceable (other than entirely through primary), no encyclopedic value. - Che Nuevara 19:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as it concerns an integral aspect of an especially violent show known to some degree because of its body count. Sincerely, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 01:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This isn't OR in the slightest, as what happens is correct, it has great encyclopedic value because it is informative and very helpful, this page difines "encyclopedic value". Also the deaths are an important aspect for the show and meeningful as the chracters are dead, and although we see the actors elsewhere, the characters are propperly dead. I shall add more if you think I need to, as this was me getting into the debate, and by the way, I sort of owe this page as it was very helpful to me at a point in my life. MJN SEIFER 11:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because it's correct doesn't mean it's not original research. Have a look at WP:NOR - Che Nuevara 17:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've never seen the show nor am I a fan of violence of this nature. What might help this article, which does seem to have all the dry details already documented, is to share some of the critical thinking about the deaths from seasoned writers who have reviewed the show(s). I know New York Times often drills down to offer insightful analysis on shows of this high profile. Beef up a decent lede so someone like myself might actually develop an interest in the behind the scenes information. Benjiboi 11:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - it's not cruft because it's central to the show. Some advice: find a reference that covers the significance (notability) of death in the show, and find references for each death from a reputable source other than the show itself.  Yes this seems silly, but it's Wikipedia policy.  See WP:VER.   Th e Tr ans hu man ist    06:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Cruft. JJL 00:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete If Oz (TV show) is known for its body count, then cite that in the main article. Any assertation in the article that the show's body count is high is a synthesis without a source to back it up.  A list of every death in show does little more than give pieces of the show's plot anyway, and I don't see how this article could be more than a pure plot summary. --Phirazo 12:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not suggesting listing the deaths in Oz (TV series). I'm saying the purpose of this article could be best served as a secondary source cited in the main article that says "Oz is a violent show".  There is no need to list them all in a big plot summary.  --Phirazo 16:57, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


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