Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of deceased American comic book characters (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Besides, nobody really dies in comics anyway... I'm not userfying articles, but somebody at WP:REFUND might.  Sandstein  19:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

List of deceased American comic book characters
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It's never a good sign when a list comprises entirely in-universe events, cited solely to the works of fiction in which they appear. This survived AFD twice (2013, 2006), but our inclusion standards have tightened considerably since then.

The last AFD closed no consensus, in part because of arguments that "removal from publication with death being the cited as the cause" was a WP:LISTN-compliant inclusion criterion. Of course, when cited to the primary source, it is not. Nor does that even consider the half-page of somewhat contradictory inclusion criteria referenced on the Talk page in an effort to keep this list vaguely under control. It's also not a valid WP:SPINOUT from comic book death because, in that sense, it's largely indiscriminate.

It's possible, in a thought-experiment sense, to imagine a properly sourced, legitimate spinout list, indexing actually notable examples of the trope in the comic medium. At its most generous, that's a call to blow it up and start over, because in over a decade, that's not the direction this content has evolved. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:52, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fancruft entirely sourced to the comics themselves. Death in comic books means little, as characters are resurrected all the time, so there seems to be no pertinent reason for its existence beyond a reference for diehard comic book fans, so I doubt such a list would ever fill Wikipedia's current inclusion criteria.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:12, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 13:42, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 13:42, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, both WP:FANCRUFT and WP:NOTDIR (it's a non notable cross categorisation). Ajf773 (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:FANCRUFT sourced, if you want to call it that, only to the works of fiction themselves. Reyk YO! 07:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as poorly defined and impossible to maintain. No one would consider a List of deaths in film, and this fits with that. Any notable death can be covered at Comic book death. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:54, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm tempted to rewrite based on the suggestion of a properly sourced, legitimate spinout list, indexing actually notable examples of the trope in the comic medium. Would the closing admin be prepared to userfy to my user space? Hiding T 14:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.