Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of democratically elected governments


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Krakatoa Katie  03:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

List of democratically elected governments

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Despite its name, this appears to be a POV-motived page of original research. It appears to have originated as an articled titled List of democratically elected governments opposed by the U.S., and was moved to this page, which clearly is not what it attempts to describe. Zim Zala Bim talk  03:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete - it's a terrible attempt. I don't know how it survived this long. Grsz11 (talk) 03:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ew. It's an essay, not a list, and a fairly POV essay too. --Gwern (contribs) 03:51 4 March 2008 (GMT)
 * Strong Delete - it's not even remotely accurate in certain things, since Hitler was not elected Chancellor, but appointed by the president. Nothing like putting common historical misconceptions front and center. matt91486 (talk) 05:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, highly inaccurate essay. Another example: "he passed the Enabling Act of 1933". No, I believe that the Reichstag passed the act at his behest. Unsalvageable. --Dhartung | Talk 07:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: information in this article is available in other places on wiki, better organized and sourced, less problematic POV-wise.  Charlie - talk to me - what I've done  07:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The list (which so far has four governments on it, Chile, Germany, Guatemala and Haiti) is actually intended by the author to be a list of "democratically elected governments" that were "destabilized or overthrown" with the assistance of my homeland, the bad old imperialistic United States. As others point out, this is filled with inaccuracies and POV so far, and there's no reason to expect that it will get any better.  I expect it's probably redundant to another article anyway.  Mandsford (talk) 14:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Userfy to give me time to fix it. I originally intended it to be a completely neutral examination of governments which were "elected" and yet which someone decided was not democratic enough to be maintained. This, however, may be too large a topic for me to address all by myself.
 * The real question is, "What makes a government democratic?"
 * A related question: "Do elections always result in democratic governments?"
 * I'd like to collect published opinions on both sides of these and other questions.
 * I am not pushing any POV - if I were, the nominator would have either (a) stated that "Ed is pushing viewpoint X" or (b) simply revised the article so that it was neutral about whether X is true. --Uncle Ed (talk) 15:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * comment You may not be pushing a POV but at the very least this article constitutes OR.--Woland (talk) 17:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a lot of stuff to take on in one article. Heaven knows that there are plenty of published sources about Guatemala, Chile, Iran, etc., but setting the boundaries is where the POV has come in.  It calls on judgments about whether an election was "fair", whether the government remained "democratic", and how you define whether the U.S.A. was "responsible" for the overthrow or destabilization of the government.   You suggest that in 1945, the U.S. nullified the results of Germany's 1932 elections, and overthrew a democratically elected government.  To be nice about it, that is a point of view I have never read before today... Mandsford (talk) 19:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong delete - Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete By the way this article is done, we could use the POV (correct POV in my opinion, but yet a POV) that Reagan's administration's actions ultimately forced the downfall of the USSR, whose government was formally elected very democratically — after all, the USSR was always proclaming that it stood for democracy. Nyttend (talk) 20:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


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