Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of discontinued Ben & Jerry's flavors


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 22:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

List of discontinued Ben & Jerry's flavors
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Unnotable list of "discontinued" flavors of an ice cream brand; No significant coverage of this topic in reliable sources. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 00:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Lists have become a great way for Wikipedia editors (and "fans") to cram in as much non-notable trivia into a page that would otherwise be completely and totally unacceptable anywhere else on Wikipedia, and that's a damn shame.   JBsupreme  ( talk ) 00:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep product of a famous company, and we keep lists of discontinued products of other manufacturers. Someone might reasonably come here for this information--& it does not seem to all be on their website. We are the information source for subjects like this.    DGG ( talk ) 05:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, can you please point to other examples of lists of discontinued products from other manufacturers? We ought not to be a primary source for this sort of information.  JBsupreme  ( talk ) 07:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Please avid WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS arguments at AfD, they don't further your cause. An article is always weight on its own merits and in relation to policy. I have no problem seeing many large manufacturers getting (or perhaps they already have, I havn't checked) lists of their products, even those that are discontinued. I just checked a single company now, and it has its discontinued products listed at McDonald's products. Similarly, there is a list of "discontinued products" for an airline currently at FLC, see List of Braathens destinations. Arsenikk (talk)  08:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If you interpreted my comment to be an argument for or against other "crap" existing, you grossly misread my comment/question. I will reiterate that we ought not to be a primary source for this sort of content, and that if third party publications do not find this subject matter to be one that is notable then the discussion needs to end there.  JBsupreme  ( talk ) 09:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The article presents a discriminate list of a notable topic (per third-party references). The nominator does not present any valid reason to delete the article. The flavors of Ben & Jerry's is frequently the discussion of main-stream media outlets, often at national level. Several flavors have their own articles, and if some are worthy of that, then creating a complete context is fine. The bottom line is that the article is a discriminate, verifiable and notable list. If someone merged with the List of Ben and Jerry's flavors, and the resulting list was not too long, that would also be fine. Arsenikk (talk)  08:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually the nominator did make a valid claim for deletion, in that he or she believes that this is not a notable topic. Further, the only source mentioned in the list's current version is not reliable; it's a self-published collection.  I don't yet have an opinion on the notability of the topic, but these are factors I am considering.  The topic is definitely interesting, but a bona-fide reliable source must be found to clearly show that it is notable.  I haven't had any luck finding such a source yet, but I suspect that DGG's assertion of notability can be established with some digging - which is why I won't bother formally weighing in as yet.--otherlleft 19:29, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I urge the closing administrator to strike the above !vote -- there are no third party referenceS (plural) in this list, and the only external link cited is a press release published by Grassroots Newswire. Give me a break.   JBsupreme  ( talk ) 09:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT and mention the more notable retired flavors (are there any if they're retired??) in the main Ben & Jerry's article. Yoninah (talk) 11:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The company stops producing some flavors every year, and some are apparently released only on a limited basis, so it's reasonable to presume that the retiring of at least some of these flavors has received coverage. I do not have the time to research this right now, but if this ends as deletion any admin may take this as a request to userfy this article into my userspace so I can check it out down the line.--otherlleft 19:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete If I want to admire the stones in the "Flavor Graveyard" then I can click on the official website.  Some-- yes some, nobody cares if they have stopped selling "chocolate almond" or "vanilla with Heath toffee crunch" -- some of these can usefully be mentioned in the Ben & Jerry's article.  If the aim is to make a complete list of every flavor ever served at Ben & Jerry's, there are some people in Vermont who have already done it as part of their job. Mandsford (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Mandsford, they are not all of them in the source you mentioned. We do it better.    DGG ( talk ) 04:44, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I am having difficulty parsing DGG's comment here. Can you rephrase whatever you just said?  JBsupreme  ( talk ) 08:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not a webhost for Ben & Jerry's, anything here is either going to be original research or copied from the Ben & Jerry's website. An externa link on Ben and Jerry's is all that is needed here RadioFan (talk) 19:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable list, only reliable sources appear to refer directly back to the Ben & Jerry's website. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.