Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of dominant sovereign states and their servient territories (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Courcelles 18:10, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

List of dominant sovereign states and their servient territories
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I believe this is listcruft. It violates WP:SYN, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, and most importantly WP:V, since it is not at all clear how the information is to be verified, partly because it is nowhere clear what information is being presented. We learn that Puerto Rico is a "servient territory" of the "dominant sovereign state" that is the America, but this doesn't help us learn what relationship actually obtains between these two entities, especially since entirely different relationships exist between the USA and the other entities listed under it as "servient" (how often is that word used in the literature anyway?). This list does not tell anybody anything, as its opening tacitly admits. Srnec (talk) 03:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Dependent territory in a historical section. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * How is this supposed to be merged? It is unsourced and the relationships between states unspecified. I think a merge is impossible. We don't need a list of this sort, so the list should be deleted. The list contains no information that we otherwise lack. Srnec (talk) 05:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: as the nom suggests, such a list actually inadvertently creates misinformation and encourages incorrect conclusions. Relationships between these entities can be properly explained in individual country articles, etc. And, simply because other dubious lists may exist is no justification for this one. And merging would simply cut'n'paste the problem to another place. --Merbabu (talk) 07:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, incurable. Large empires were complex, evolving, at time amorphous affairs; their corresponding articles are wikipedia battlefields. Controversial content should not be reproduced elsewhere while there's disagreement about core subjects. I don't want to judge this list as acceptable or unacceptable per Content forking; but it is clearly undesirable. East of Borschov 07:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. A lot of work went into this, but it just isn't work we can use in this form.  "Servient territory" is an actual term of art in international law; adding to this list's problems, it is not remotely close to being strictly applicable to many of these entries.  Instead, the stated inclusion criteria are so broad as to be impossible to verify, and, indeed, no effort is made to do so.  Everything from uninhabited coral atolls to wartime occupations to some (but not all!) Indian states (and, curiously, none of the Indian union territories) is currently included.  I can see no way to salvage this.  Serpent&#39;s Choice (talk) 17:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
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