Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of educators and librarians of Upstate New York


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The result was delete. czar 02:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

List of educators and librarians of Upstate New York

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Similar to Articles for deletion/List of political figures of Upstate New York and Articles for deletion/List of emigrants from Upstate New York, this is biographical listcruft, an overly granular fork of List of people from New York (state). Sure that is a massive category, but this is unsourced with no set criteria for inclusion. Reywas92Talk 01:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 03:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 03:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 03:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 03:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep/merge The list of people from New York (state) has many occupational sections but doesn't seem to have one for educators or librarians.  Such people as a group are notable per WP:LISTN.  For example, see Demand and supply of professionally trained librarians in New York State or Encyclopedia of New York State which highlist the role of key people like Melvil Dewey whose system is now used worldwide.  WP:LISTCRUFT is neither guideline nor policy; just disruptive WP:CRUFTCRUFT. Andrew D. (talk) 11:16, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge, as above. This is way too esoterically crufty as a standalone. Agricola44 (talk) 14:49, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge per Andrew D. Delete In addition to being crufty. Given that the boundaries of where Upstate New York actually begins is widely disputed, it's difficult to use as a classifying criteria for lists. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:18, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TNT as hopelessly far from complete and hopelessly huge if ever completed. There are 13 people on the list now. Just including Category:Cornell University faculty would give some 1175 upstate NY educators and the region includes many other fine universities and colleges with many other notable faculty members. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:16, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete A fuzzily defined inclusion criterion and no real indication that the set has been treated as a collective entity (the Google Books sources mentioned above either can't be read or don't limit themselves to upstate). Merging would just introduce arbitrariness into the target article. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 00:41, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


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