Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of elementary schools in the Peoria Unified School District


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep/selective merge. Although there are a number of policy-based calls for deletion below, the consensus seems to be to keep the article so that the relevant content can be merged where it needs to go. As Nrswanson (wisely) points out below, this task is too complicated for a single closing admin to handle, so I leave it to the normal editing process to sort out. -- jonny - m t  02:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

List of elementary schools in the Peoria Unified School District

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An indiscriminate list of elementary schools in a school district. The only information about each is Principal's name, address, phone number, ect. so this can easily be defined under "Wikipedia is not a directory." Tavix (talk) 15:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep and cleanup and then remove the equivalent list from Peoria Unified School District. I entirely disagree with the nomination since there is plenty of encyclopaedic information in the page. This article has been used as a merge target for nn schools and needs to be kept for that purpose. The encyclopaedic information such as city/principal/grades/enrollment/established/achievement profile/feeders should be put in a table eliminating contact details; class timings etc. TerriersFan (talk) 16:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 16:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * keep - a large number of schools are listed here. at the very least this should be merged into Peoria Unified School District --T-rex 16:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * DELETE PER WP:NOT#LIST  KoshVorlon  > rm -r WP:F.U.R    17:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - Indiscriminate collection of information (see WP:IINFO). I would suggest merger with Peoria Unified School District, except that the parent article already includes a list, and the list article consists almost entirely of nonencyclopedic details, almost entirely copy-pasted from http://portal.peoriaud.k12.az.us/Schools/default.aspx . The lengthy part about Marshall Ranch Elementary appears to have been a separate article that was supposed to be merged into this list (probably after an AfD discussion), but the "merger" was done by dropping the entire article (which is full of non-notable details) into the middle of the list. Each of these elementary schools could have roughly one paragraph in Peoria Unified School District, not to include phone numbers, hours of operation, and similar trivia. --Orlady (talk) 17:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Repeating and expanding from the above. Almost the entire contents of the article are copied and pasted from pages such as http://portal.peoriaud.k12.az.us/sites/ApacheEl/default.aspx . (It's probably not a copyvio because the PUSD website does not appear to be copyrighted.) --Orlady (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge/delete - There are only 30 of them - surely no problem to sift out the useful information, such as date of opening, into the article Peoria Unified School District article, and then delete this one as superfluous.HeartofaDog (talk) 18:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Clear violation of WP:NOTDIR. Specific information about these schools (which is likely to be more up-to-date than the editors of the WP page would keep it) can be found by following the external links in Peoria Unified School District. Deor (talk) 19:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to school district article, removing phone numbers, exact addresses, names of principals, and similar information. --Polaron | Talk 20:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 21:12, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 21:12, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Selective merge to Peoria Unified School District. Merge any missing schools. Stuff like phone#'s and schedules should be dropped. WP:V applies to other information. • Gene93k (talk) 21:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and discuss elsewhere--no reason not to split the primary and secondary schools--this is an editing decision, not of for afd. How the duplication should be removed is for the talk pages involved, not here. Similarly, though I agree with the comments about what is non-encyclopedic  content, this isn't the place to discuss it. DGG (talk)
 * No. I am nominating this article for DELETION, and this is the place to discuss such things. I highly disagree with your nonsense comment about trying to discuss this elsewhere when this is a deletion discussion. Please do not come back here again if you want to have that attitude towards these kind of discussions. Tavix (talk) 18:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Calm down Tavix. I believe DGG was merely saying that decisions regarding splits and mergers will need to be decided after the AFD is closed (assuming the decision is keep) which is true. I don't think he was saying that the deletion discussion itself should be moved elsewhere or was in anyway devaluing this conversation. Please assume good faith.Nrswanson (talk) 05:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Beyond that, the other problem I have with DGG's statement is that he jumps the gun and automatically assumes its going to be kept. In a conversation to establish a consensus, I take that personally as devaluing mine and other peoples arguements as false. I do agree that if it is kept, we should discus a merger, but that statement was way over the top. Tavix (talk) 15:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Per T-rex. I also echo DGG in saying that any discussions regarding mergers, etc. will need to be discussed after this AFD closes (obviously not necessary if it is deleted) on the article's talk page.Nrswanson (talk) 05:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Question - Is "merge" no longer a valid option for resolving an AfD? --Orlady (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a valid option when the article can easily be merged by the closing administrator. In this case, however, although a merge is probably warranted it would be too complicated of a problem for the closing admin. The reason for this is because the best way to merge the information is not immediately obvious and would therefore require further discussion among editors interested in this page. I would say that the admin could tag the article for merge if it is kept but the actual merging process will take some further discussion and time beyond this AFD.Nrswanson (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. Just to clarify my "delete" recommendation above: The list of the schools' names in Peoria Unified School District appears to be complete, and I see nothing else that needs to be included there. I'm explicitly not supporting a merger. Deor (talk) 16:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A comment regarding the WP:NOT and WP:NOT arguments: there is nothing indiscriminate about a list of schools in a particular region or jurisdiction. In fact, two such lists (List of schools in Northland, New Zealand, List of schools in Marlborough, New Zealand) were recently promoted to "featured" status. –Black Falcon (Talk) 06:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.