Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of english football clubs who have never graced the top flight


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A clear consensus that this is not suitable for the encyclopedia. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:53, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

List of english football clubs who have never graced the top flight

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Pure listcruft, not covered in reliable sources, and so fails WP:GNG. Aside from that, the title is also wrong- the current title could include any team in any league or non-league division. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:56, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources and the list should be bigger i guess. Pure trivia info. Kante4 (talk) 20:58, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - The list lacks notability. Meatsgains (talk) 21:03, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess the title is wrong and some of the sources are not reliable but I am still working on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Willll4 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 21:10, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 21:10, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - What is the encyclopedic value of such a list? If the list were made complete it would be immensely long. This fails WP:LSC. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 21:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's meant to be a list of all teams that have been in the Football League at any point, but never the top division. Though the current article name allows any team in the English football pyramid to be added. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:17, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The title is also incorrectly capitalised (needs a capital E on English) and "graced the top flight" is pure journalese and not an encyclopedic choice of wording -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:15, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

*Keep I don't see any reason why this page should be deleted. The majority of the sources are reliable, the list is still being added to so the list not being big enough is no reason, the title may not be 100% correct but in the opening paragraph it says about having to have played in the league and it's an interesting page as their are many teams still to be added to the list also if this page is nominated for deletion then many other pages like List of unrelegated association football clubs and List of football clubs in England by competitive honours won should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aston Vanilla (talk • contribs) 21:39, 22 May 2016 (UTC) — Aston Vanilla (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * None of the sources are independent, reliable sources- they are all primary sources, or Wordpress, which isn't reliable. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:20, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep After reading Aston Vanilla's comment I feel strongly that it shouldn't be deleted. Willll4 (talk 23:05, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This is the article creator, so he'll obviously vote keep. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:20, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note 2: I've reinstated the user's comment, since they're allowed to comment, it's just their sockpuppets that aren't. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:22, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Seeing someone only create an article Account to vote at an afd always gives me an odd feeling... Kante4 (talk) 03:59, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I presume you meant create an account rather than an article. The fact that  has only edited this AfD and the article on Rotherham United is.........interesting..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You are correct, my mistake. Kante4 (talk) 08:05, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:17, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - SPI opened on Aston Vanilla here... JMHamo (talk) 07:52, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Though I very much like the title. Clearly an unwieldy and impossible list that could feasibly include thousands of sports teams --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 08:36, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Aston Vanilla is a ✅ sock puppet of Willll4.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as impossible listcruft. Rarely a good idea to attempt to document things that haven't occurred. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 12:55, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - great topic for a night down the pub with your mates, less so for an encyclopedia. GiantSnowman 21:19, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I reckon you could get a good pub drinking game out of it. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:32, 24 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - this list could have hundreds of clubs but it is purely list cruft and fails the general notability guideline - Yellow Dingo (talk) 12:03, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - The list could be endless and arbitrary. You could include anything from teams in the Championship to U-5 teams playing in some youth league. Smartyllama (talk) 18:40, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - total cruft, unclear how this could ever be encyclopedic. Fenix down (talk) 06:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.