Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of entertainers in Christian media


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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:25, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

List of entertainers in Christian media

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Prod was contested because "lists are genereallly incomplete, so that's not an objection", yet that was not the main concern. It has no criteria for inclusion. This is better addressed with a category such as Category:American performers of Christian music and Category:Christian music songwriters. If all entertainers in Christian "media" (music, radio, TV, film, stage, etc.) were included, it would be inordinately large as well. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:47, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete Far too vague and broad to include ministers, TV hosts, actors, producers, musicians, et al. Such a weird list, Mel Novak is ordained, but not "in Christian media". Reywas92Talk 17:11, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly, but because he appeared in film, somehow qualifies. The subject's appearance in film is unrelated to the subject's involvement with Christianity. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:15, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The article does attempt to provide a criterion for inclusion in the list in its opening paragraph, but what strikes me is that it seems to include pastors who "have their own ministry". I'm not an expert, but I was always under the impression that being engaged in the ministry was not the same thing as being in showbusiness (except for "high church Anglicanism", of course), so I'm not clear how this is going to work. Overall, I'm inclined towards Delete unless someone can come up with a clear rule for determining who appears on this list and who doesn't. RomanSpa (talk) 18:16, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as far too broad and vague. Better to have more focused lists like List of television evangelists . Clarityfiend (talk) 01:27, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - I think the categories we have (some mentioned above) do a much better job of what this list is trying to do. I have queries about what might qualify as "Christian media", especially considering the broadcast of the Papal Mass and the inclusion of prayer before televised football games, but that's probably all moot.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 08:54, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom. Nitesh003 (talk) 13:24, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete and maybe move some of the info to more specific pages if that's feasible. What is Christian media? Christian rock? Biblical movies? The Chronicles of Narnia?? It seems too broad for an essay, let alone a list of people. I don't see it being a very useful list. Anecdotally it can be hard to pigeonhole artists and entertainers as "Christian" or not (there's disagreement over which bands are "Christian bands" or not), I think that'll be a problem with this one as well. BuySomeApples (talk) 02:52, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete -- when WP was in an early stage of developing, lists were useful as a means of identifying (by red links) articles that were missing; there may still be a place for that on occasions. Today, a list such as this is just INDISCIMINATE information, where inclusion criteria may include the editor's POV as to what (or who) is important.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)


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