Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of equipment of the Ethiopian National Defence Force


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. It's not contested that the article's contents are substantially unverifiable because the cited sources are inappropriate; in which case WP:V mandates deletion.  Sandstein  08:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

List of equipment of the Ethiopian National Defence Force

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This entire article was created on original research. There might be one or two citations saying Ethiopia bought a tank or something (hard to say, title sounds good but the citations won't load), but all the rest of the citations are about the weapons or equipment, or weapons in general, but not Ethiopia or ENDF having them or acquiring them. The inclusion criteria is "ever, maybe" because of such language as "may have been in service over the years". There is no indication that the list-subject has been covered by multiple independent reliable sources (WP:NLIST). Platonk (talk) 10:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 17:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Platonk (talk) 10:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethiopia-related deletion discussions. Platonk (talk) 10:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:40, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Clearly this needs significant improvement, but I'm not sure WP:TNT is the right call. For instance, I believe ref #6 is supposed to link to this SIPRI database that would seem like a reasonable source. The report of transfers with Ethiopia as recipient is rather long (10 printed pages), so I didn't check whether the cited contents match those in the database. I don't have access to #1 to determine whether it indeed only discusses the weapons systems in general, or also includes Ethiopia as an operator., do you have access to the Jane's book to check whether it includes operator countries? -Ljleppan (talk) 13:13, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No access to Jane's. The source you provided is interesting, but explains only the 8 times that cite-6 is used; doesn't explain any of the other uncited line items I spot-checked. 10 pages long only if 1950-2020, but 3 pages for 2000-2020. With a country that has had so many civil wars, how can a "purchase list" spanning 7 decades mean ENDF has it, or had it? What about loss of equipment through war, use, age, theft or sales? If a country is currently split between 2 or more armed and warring factions (see Tigray War currently in play), which side has the equipment? One cannot say just because 'Ethiopia' bought it that the Ethiopian National Defense Force has, or ever had, it? Is a country's list of historic purchases of equipment the same as their current list of assets ("List of equipment of the ENDF")? I assert no. Would a famous person's or notable organization's list of purchases of anything be worthy of a Wikipedia article? No, you'd argue WP:UNDUE. Same thing here. Where are the sources to what ENDF has in present time (even any prior 'present time')? Or rename the article Military equipment ever sold to Ethiopia. There are 15 similar cruft pages made by the same editor last year. Platonk (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * delete as non-maintainable. Wikipedia is not a catalog. Loew Galitz (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.