Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of events at Yankee Stadium (1923)


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The result was   keep. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

List of events at Yankee Stadium (1923)

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WP:INDISCRIMINATE list of events, as it includes some but not necessarily all events to take place at the old Yankee Stadium. In addition, it gives no argument as to what makes it notable to consider events in such a way. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  —– Muboshgu (talk) 20:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep and Improve - Yankee Stadium (the 1923 version, not the 2009 version) is the most storied ballpark there ever was. I think this was originally in the main Yankee Stadium article and was spun off because it was getting too large. Maybe some criteria could be applied as to what constitutes a notable event. A number of books have been written about the Stadium, and certain things keep turning up: Ruth hitting the first homer; the Yankees inaugurating the Stadium with their first World Series championship; Gehrig and Ruth saying farewell; the Louis-Schmeling fight; Ruth's body lying in state; the sudden-death-overtime NFL championship game; Mickey Mantle's towering home runs; the mass held by Pope Paul VI; etc. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and Improve: This is the first time I've seen this list in this form, and it can obviously become a sort of magnet or fly-trap for all kinds of miscellaneous events that seem far more important to whoever posts each one than they would for others. There's also a lot that can be pruned because it's not particularly specific to the Stadium, e.g. miscellaneous World Series (as opposed to, say, the first and last ones played at the Stadium or the first and last Yankees-Dodgers series). But I think Bugs is right: there are enough notable events that are of interest even to non-sports fans (for example, the two Joe Louis-Max Schmeling fights) that, if they can't be comfortably squeezed into the already-lengthy Yankee Stadium (1923), should be spun off into this one. Alternatively, perhaps, we could change the list title slightly and start adding any particularly notable events at the new Yankee Stadium. —— Shakescene (talk) 23:46, 9 May 2011 (UTC)   ¶ P.S. I've added my own thoughts about possible improvements to the article at the hitherto-untouched Talk:List of events at Yankee Stadium (1923) —— Shakescene (talk) 02:11, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Can't believe I'm saying this about the Death Star, but this seems to be cromulent list of notable events (which requires massive improvement in hte referencing). Normally, I would say to merge this with the article on the Stadium, but this list is clearly too long to do that. LonelyBeacon (talk) 00:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And I can't believe I nominated an article about my childhood synagogue. It struck me as a list of indiscriminate events, but opinion seems to be to keep (so far). – Muboshgu (talk) 01:26, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I was leaning toward a merge, but there's too much history so I believe this article should stay. –BuickCenturyDriver 21:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: Article was never listed on an AFD page. I've done so now, putting it on the 18th. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 17:23, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - this doesn't strike me as an indiscriminate list such as those you see in List of references to John Q. Public in popular culture type articles; this is a well presented chronological list of genuinely important events in one of the most famous stadiums of all time, and includes events both from the field of baseball and from outside said field. I'm not saying we should have these articles on every major sports stadium, but to me, this is clearly a good article topic. Kansan (talk) 18:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Finite list with logical parameters. Provides a useful navigational function. Suitable sub-page for main coverage of the stadium. A nicely done list with copious footnoting. Carrite (talk) 22:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appropriate spinout of content from its parent article.  Well-documented, well-referenced chronological overview.  The exact thresholds for events to be included in the list is an editorial matter, not a deletion concern.  I obviously wouldn't support one of these articles for every sports stadium and events venue (or even for many of them), but very few such places have the historical weight and breadth of events as Yankee Stadium. Serpent&#39;s Choice (talk) 17:30, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep it is the very nature of all stadium articles to include information about major events that have taken place there; this is as much an editorial matter as any other information we add to the encyclopedia. For a few long-lived, high-profile articles it is appropriate to make a subarticle for such information, because the number of events worth mentioning is so extensive that including it in the main article would constitute undue weight. There is no sign that the information in the article is indiscriminate in any way—quite the contrary it seems to have only selected content of lasting notability. Arsenikk (talk)  20:22, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as routine overflow split from notable article. And add their 22-0 loss against Cleveland :-) Matchups 02:33, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that was a real stinker. –BuickCenturyDriver 19:16, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
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