Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of events held at Simon Bolivar Park


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. After around a month, no consensus has emerged here at this time. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 00:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

List of events held at Simon Bolivar Park

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This list is clearly against WP:INDISCRIMINATE. We don't need a record of every event held at this arena, especially since the more notable events are already listed at the parent article (Simón Bolívar Park). The "upcoming events" section is additionally against WP:FUTURE. -- P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:06, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Colombia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:19, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:19, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:49, 29 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - as promotional fluff. This belongs on the venue's web site, not in an encyclopedia. -- &#124;  Uncle Milty  &#124;  talk  &#124;  16:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - More zealotry from P 1 9 9 who went through the Category:Lists of events by place and arbitrarily selected a few articles from it and nominated them for deletion. None of these articles are in violation of WP:INDISCRIMINATE and they're definitely not in violation of WP:FUTURE. Some are not as well sourced and maintained as the others but that's not a reason to delete them.Zvonko (talk) 21:43, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:ADHOM is not a reason for keeping. LibStar (talk) 06:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete This is exactly the type of non-encyclopaedic list that the guidelines were drafted to avoid. Having some notable events or names in a list does not make the list notable. Having chunks of non-notable events serves neither the informational, the navigational nor the developmental purposes of lists. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists. And just because a person or band is notable does not make their every appearance notable.  Notability is not transferred. --Bejnar (talk) 23:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I have started a centralized discussion at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 02:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC) 
 * Delete per WP:LISTN. The more notable events are already included at Simón Bolívar Park. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 15:45, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete an indiscriminate list, I have commented in detail at the centralised discussion. LibStar (talk) 12:34, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep This is appropriate list content--it may to some extent be an extension of what we have previously done, but it is something we should be doing. It is not indiscriminate unless we include minor venues.  DGG ( talk ) 20:29, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * In my view, INDISCRIMINATE is a narrowly worded policy consisting of four or five specific situations and is not obviously applicable to this article. James500 (talk) 06:17, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NOTPAPER. Indiscriminate doesn't apply, as the list is finite, relatively short and with a clear inclusion criterion, so it doesn't match in any way what INDISCRIMINATE is about. WP:INDISCRIMINATE was created to avoid the project become everything2 or DMOZ; but this is not a "list of all ISP providers in Indiana" or "list of health-related websites". WP:LISTN doesn't require that all items in the list are notable. Diego (talk) 07:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 16:44, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.