Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of famous Catholics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   closed by nominator on the grounds of a page move. Non-admin closing. Will immediately renominate under the new title. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 04:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

List of famous Catholics
'''I won't call this "withdrawn" as this nomination referred to a completely different scope/article. Nonetheless - closed. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)'''
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Don't even start this, please. How long will this list become? There's no point in this when there are so many of them -- this is a non-notable part of a person's identity, which will not warrant a separate list. We could just as well start a list of "famous females" or whatnot. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 02:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SALAT. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 02:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * This is a category that is needed to inform people of particularly famous persons who identify themselves as Catholics. Other similar articles of this nature already exist on Wikipedia of this nature, but none specifically about Famous Catholics.  The fact is that many in the general population are unaware of these facts.  It is important to inform people with an accurate, concise list.  You claim that being Catholic is a "non-notable part of a person's identity, which will not warrant a separate list".  Being Catholic is the most important fact in many person's lives.  This does warrant a list and many people will benefit from this knowledge.Frostandchill (talk) 03:10, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And then there are those to whom "Catholic" really means nothing more than a box on a census form. In any case, as such a list would be overwhelmingly long, thereby unmaintainable, it is useless. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 03:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Blanchardb, have we resolved this issue? I have changed the specific focus to Famous Catholics in U.S. HistoryFrostandchill (talk) 03:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SALAT. There are many countries where the vast majority of the population is Catholic, at least nominally, and where even higher percentages were Catholic in past generations. Also, virtually everyone in Western Europe between the fall of Rome and the Protestant Reformation was Catholic. If one wants to write about the religious affiliations of certain Disney Channel stars (such as the first two people listed in this article so far), it would be better to cover that in the articles about those individuals rather than trying to create a list which would be far too large to be manageable. I would also point out that there is a page called Lists of Roman Catholics which indicates that certain lists of Catholics in certain specific occupations exist as separate pages on Wikipedia -- as opposed to trying to include all of them in all occupations on a single page. Perhaps additional lists (that's lists, plural) of Catholics would be appropriate, but not a single all-encompassing list. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think a list of U.S. Catholics from the 20th/21st century would be useful. How about this article is made to focus particularly on notable Catholics of U.S. history.  It would be too broad to have of all history, but have it specifically for U.S. history.  How can I change the title of the article to make it: "Famous Catholics in U.S. history"?  This would be informative and helpful for those people interested in this information.  As far as I know, such a list does not yet exist.  I think the original error here on my part was that the scope of this article was way too wide.  My original intent was to have it be specifically notable Catholics in U.S. History which would be a shorter, concise article than the original scope.  This could be listed as a subcategory for Lists of Roman Catholics.  What do you think?Frostandchill (talk) 03:35, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Moved Have we resolved this? Can we remove the "Article for Deletion" tag to the article?  I have changed it to Famous Catholics in U.S. History.Frostandchill (talk) 03:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess. New title/scope seems limited enough. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope. The problem remains whole. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 04:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So renominate it. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.