Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of famous psychopaths

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The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

List of famous psychopaths
Delete.Conflates a medical definition with criminal behaviour. The person who started it admits "I'm not sure if these are all psychopaths." The extremely comprehensive List of serial killers by country all ready exists.Marskell 13:24, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete speculative listcruft. Punkmorten 15:45, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The page looks slightly better now. Still, to say someone is a psychopat is a little point of view and if the list of serial killers by country exists, then it should be deleted. Besides, I could say that Larry King is a psychopat, for example, and that doesnt make him one! Antonio Psycomaniatic Martin 00:19, 21 August, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a psychiatric registrar. David | Talk 23:20, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Psychopath" is not an accepted medical term, is it? --Agamemnon2 11:22, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 *  Keep  (vote change, see below). Psychopath is a medical term. see Antisocial personality disorder:A Three-Factor Model of Psychopathy. Zanaq 00:49, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The fact that it's a medical term is the problem with the list--these are convicted criminals. Again, conflating criminal behaviour and medical diagnosis and thus confusing the term for the reader. Marskell 08:29, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I didn't actually check the contents of the list. I agree wholeheartedly that the conflation existing now is totally undesirable. After inspecting the list I vote either:
 * Keep - but fill the list with real & clinical psycho's.
 * Redirect to List_of_serial_killers or something along those lines.
 * --Zanaq 14:06, 22 August 2005 (UTC)


 * delete. Dingoes ate my babies. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:46, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - If this is entirely speculation, why then, does it say on the pages of some of the listed people that they are psychopaths? As for Larry King, are there any accounts of his behaviour indicating that he has displayed any of the traits or clinical symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder? At least for some of the listed people, they have displayed a disregard for the well-being of others, they have lacked remorse despite being convicted and sentenced and their lives have been marked by impulsivity and drifting (none of them got away with what they did). If anyone wishes to dispute such traits and symptoms in some of the individuals listed on the page, then they are most welcome to do so. Furthermore, it is a very important note on the page that these people's behaviour has been by far more the exception rather than the norm for those afflicted with APD. Of course Wikipedia is not a psychiatric registrar and this should be made clear to all users. However, if the fact that Wikipedia does not have any professional authority means that it cannot make observations in people's behaviour for example, then how do we know that Wikipedia

can have a list of famous people who have suffered from depression? Perhaps this page should make distinctions between those who have been diagnosed and those for whom it is entirely speculation.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.