Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of farmers' markets in the United Kingdom


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. --Daniel J. Leivick (talk) 00:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

List of farmers' markets in the United Kingdom
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Unencyclopaedic list that will always be incomplete or out of date Ratarsed (talk) 20:46, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.   —Ratarsed (talk) 20:46, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - discriminate, organised, sourced ... . I have notified contributing editors. TerriersFan (talk) 21:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - The more I edit wikipedia, the more I believe that lists should be eradicated in preference for categories. Lists are almost always out of date. I do not see any value over a category. --Stewart (talk)  21:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - A category is for a collection of articles; since none of these markets has, or is likely to have, an article how is a category appropriate? TerriersFan (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - This evening, the wikilinks for several markets have replaced those of the town associated with them. Additionally, if there is not an article for a Farmer's Market, the sub-section in the associated village/town article to its Farmer's market should the category piped to the particular sub-section. --Stewart (talk)  21:51, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - well, the diff for today's edits is here and I'm not spotting the extra links. In any case the article sorts the markets by regions and references each one - added value to a category. TerriersFan (talk) 22:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Weak Keep - Can't see that being incomplete is a reason for deletion. Wikipedia is not complete either! All the farmers markets are notable (coverage in local papers for a start). Nk.sheridan     Talk  21:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Objective, referenced, farmers markets don't move around much, so I can't imagine it will ever go out of date, even if it isn't complete at the moment, though it will be at some stage, as their are a finite amount of them.--Serviam (talk) 22:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Just took a quick look at the references for these, and the first two are broken (I have a feeling the Ipswich one is no longer on that schedule, either) - scanning down the others, I notice a lot refer to the Big Barn website, which I also know is not always as up to date as it could be (or verifiable, as they don't cope if a market goes away, or any other other their points of interest go bust). If this list really was complete (and given that there's no assertion of any level of notability) then this would grow to be too large to be usable -- pretty much every market town now also has a farmers' market, in addition to most farm shops -- off the top of my head, I can think of at least four in a ten mile radius of myself, and that is only including those I've been to. -- if extrapolated, that's quite some directory we're building. -- Ratarsed (talk) 07:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a directory, not a list. See WP:NOT. There is no information provided about the markets to indicate their notability. The fact that hours are listed is a dead giveaway that it's a directory. And with the hours removed, there would be little of value left in the article. Pburka (talk) 23:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - It does look like a directory after reading WP:NOT. If all of the farmers' markets are notable. As I'm sure the majority are (third party coverage in local papers, websites which list such markets, etc.). I'd say then that they could each have their own article and be included in a category of farmers' markets in the UK Nk.sheridan     Talk  23:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete -  Jed keenan (talk) 00:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Obviously a directory, and of nonnotable topics too. I can't imagine that average individual markets would be notable: they're verifiable, but likely to be only passing notes about them, not the kind of sourcing that we require for notability.  If this were considered notable, we likely could have a "List of churches in the United Kingdom" or "List of chemists [or whatever they call them; my American mind can't remember the equivalent term to drugstore] in the United Kingdom", because all would likely be verifiable in similar ways.  One question, though: anyone have an idea what Jed's comment means?  Nyttend (talk) 02:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm trying to think of what a notable farmer's market would be and thus how many might be on a list without it just being a directory of external links. I suppose the oldest one and the largest one and such could be on there, but what else makes a farmer's market really notable except as a local attraction? No path to a list of notable farmer's markets. --Dhartung | Talk 04:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * KEEP - It is the UK section of List of farmers' markets. This list was created to replace/stop production of lots of granular localised lists. If the information is out of date, it can be updated. MRSC • Talk 05:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment If I'd have known there was a List of farmers' markets sooner, I'd have included it in this nomination -- I notice on its talk page people suggesting it should be deleted... -- Ratarsed (talk) 08:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:NOT.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 20:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


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