Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of female supervillains (4th nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:56, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

List of female supervillains
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Violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE due to its total lack of inclusion criteria. There is also no context to indicate why specifically female supervillains would merit a list when we already have Category:Lists of DC Comics supervillains and Category:Lists of Marvel Comics supervillains which include both male and female villains. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep Having just done the detectives, I'll let someone else do the supervillainesses. After all, per WP:BEFORE, it's really the nominator's job to look for sources and they certainly exist.  I especially like "“People keep giving me rings, but I think a small death ray might be more practical”: Women and Mad Science in Steampunk Comics".
 * The real issue here is that this is the fourth nomination and so WP:DELAFD applies, "It can be disruptive to repeatedly nominate a page in the hope of getting a different outcome." Andrew🐉(talk) 09:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The last nomination was 7 years ago, an amount of time during which a newborn can become a walking, talking child. To call that "repeatedly nominating a page", stretches the limits of absurdity and common sense.
 * The issue here is whether a list is merited, instead of an article about gender in superhero comics. This article, a mere regurgitation of names, explains nothing about the importance of women in comics. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep As I said the last time this went to AFD, this is a valid navigational list, every thing listed having their own article where they are called super villains and their gender mentioned as female. Category:Female supervillains exist, and shows there are categories for three different major comic book companies for their female supervillains plus additional entries that don't fit in any sub-categories.  The categories mentioned by the nominator, group things based on which super hero or team they are the enemy of, which is actually wrong since the villains often target more than one hero.  Those two categories only list lists showing information about various enemies.  As for why divide them by gender in a list, well, we do that with female actors, athletes, politicians, and everything else.  Enter in Category:Female into a search and see how many suggestions come up.   D r e a m Focus  11:21, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:VAGUEWAVE at WP:INDISCRIMINATE, which does not apply to this list, is not a convincing deletion rationale. Jclemens (talk) 17:49, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep: Inclusion criteria is clear in the title, female supervillains. —¿philoserf? (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Andrew. desmay (talk) 16:12, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I feel like it's the kind of list that's spun out to improve readability (not breaking the prose) on related pages like Superhero. Likewise, I would approve of a more draconian clean up, such as to remove all unsourced, non-article entries, and then do a quick check to ensure that the criteria is in the lede of the rest (ie. female and villain) so it isn't bloated with say, 'superheroines who went rogue for one issue because of mind control'. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 03:56, 20 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Related discussions, nominated by the same person for the same reason:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_September_14 Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_September_14 Articles_for_deletion/List_of_male_detective_characters  D r e a m Focus  00:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, very clear inclusion criteria.Jackattack1597 (talk) 21:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)


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