Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional island countries


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Nobody has made a clear case for merge-worthy information, or that this is a plausible search term for a redirect. Vanamonde (Talk) 06:41, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

List of fictional island countries

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Fails WP:LISTN. Also, List of fictional countries and List of fictional islands should have this covered already. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:01, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:04, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:04, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islands-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 08:05, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, and overlap with other lists — in particular, the section about the Caribbean Sea duplicates the scope of a section in List of fictional countries in the Americas. Probably lots of OR as well; for example, Swallow Falls in Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs is shown as a remote Atlantic island, but I don't think it is explicitly described as a country. The only two entries with references (about San Sombrèro and a non-notable YouTube channel) are both primary sourced. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 09:59, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep/merge This is obviously a subset of the List of fictional islands and might be a reasonable WP:SPLIT as there are many such.  Per policy WP:PRESERVE, it would be better to merge than to delete so that the edit history and attributions are maintained during further development. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:24, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge any blue-linked entries to List of fictional islands that are not already there - When you only include entries that are both actually notable and are confirmed to actually be countries (as mentioned by LaundryPizza03 already, many of these are not), then a WP:SPLIT is not needed.  Particularly after the List of fictional islands list itself is given a much-needed cleanup.  Rorshacma (talk) 14:27, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of fictional islands. First of all, this is unencyclopedic fancruft from beginning to end, and the inclusion criteria are pretty unclear. To pick two examples of what I mean: 1) the Empire of the Isles from the Dishonored video games. That doesn't take place on Earth, and the rest of the list strongly implies it's for fictional islands in the real world. So which is it? 2) Atlantis. True, Atlantis probably never existed and it's likely Plato didn't intend for his account of it to be taken as historical, but plenty of people believe it was real and I don't think equating pseudohistory with fiction is a POV that Wikipedia really ought to take. Also, a lot of people say Atlantis was a continent and not an island. So.
 * This list is largely redundant to List of fictional islands. The only way this wouldn't be so is if there were a lot of stories involving fictional nations on real islands. I don't support a merge because this listicle is mostly unsourced and the obvious target is already full of unsourced fancruft such that Ctrl-C Ctrl-V'ing a lot more unsourced cruft would make it worse and not better. <b style="color: Maroon;">Reyk</b> <b style="color: Blue;">YO!</b> 15:05, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as seems to be WP:CFORK of List of fictional islands. Given how woefully sourced it is I don’t see the need to merge. Vladimir.copic (talk) 19:38, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambugate as seems to be WP:CFORK of List of fictional islands+List of fictional countries. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The reason why I think this should be deleted is because it lacks some important information and can be confusing. If you skip the title, you can't even tell that some of these are fake and some sounds like real places which is confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bogotodoliatatto (talk • contribs) 20:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Your !vote is supposed to be placed at the bottom, and you did not sign your comment with . I can't understand your concern, but it's clear enough for me that these are fictional and deletion is not cleanup. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 23:47, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Can't really recommend a merge as List of fictional islands is equally problematic and crufty. The best course of action would be to delete as failing WP:INDISCRIMINATE and being unable to put the entries in context as a notable cross categorization.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:35, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


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