Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional spacecraft


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy keep. Per the following reasons. This hasn't been followed as the article has no recent discussion on the talk page (the most recent discussion as in August), the article hasn't been tagged for improvement, and | sources | have been shared. (non-admin closure)  D u s t i SPEAK!! 20:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

List of fictional spacecraft

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 * ''This is the second deletion discussion for this article; the first (under the original title "List of fictional spaceships") can be found here.
 * ''This is the second deletion discussion for this article; the first (under the original title "List of fictional spaceships") can be found here.

Delete. This list is just far too vague and indiscriminate. I've spent a good deal of time trying to clean it up but I realize it really is just a lost cause. Please note that this has been listed once before approximately one year ago, the result being no consensus. JBsupreme (talk) 23:24, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Any reason this should be a list instead of a category? Jclemens (talk) 01:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Any reason why it can't be both? Mandsford (talk) 15:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. fictional information should be notable OUTSIDE the fictional work, ie in the real world, and not just among fans. if these were discussed outside the fanworld, i could see a small list of ships that got attention like that, not enough to justify an article. star wars and star trek ships have articles already. a few sf novels, like ringworlds ships, maybe tau zero, 2001. most ships are simply vehicles for carrying a story along (pun intended), and are not usually characters in their own right, and rarely notable characters. Making this a category sounds nice.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly an exceptionally notable subject suitable for a list article. How best to organize it or split it up for manageability is an editing issue. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Apparently there are entire books on the subject. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 02:42, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Inclusion criterion too vast to make list manageable. A category would be more appropriate here.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 03:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Categories have their own problems and so complement rather than supersede lists - please see WP:CLS. Colonel Warden (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep There is no recent discussion at the article's talk page and so our deletion process has not been followed. It is easy to find good sources for this topic such as The Cambridge companion to science fiction and so this is just a matter of following our editing policy rather than deletion. Colonel Warden (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I think this is a valid navigational list, just that it needs to stick to craft which actually have articles, to try and cover every craft from every notable sci fi fiction would be silly and unworkable. The source pointed out by Col. Warden looks like a good example of what could be used for a pre-amble, and also a way of categorizing craft. Someoneanother 17:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * KEEP These kinds of lists are very helpful, just because you think it's a lost cause doesn't mean it's not useful. --The_stuart (talk) 18:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep fictional spaceships form an important part of many science fiction works and the names of some of them have become famous. A list allows a short description of the spaceships unlike a category. MKFI (talk) 21:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources pointed out above and Child of Midnight. --Cyber cobra (talk) 23:02, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Horselover Frost (talk &middot; edits) 23:31, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.