Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fighting styles in Fist of the North Star (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:42, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

List of fighting styles in Fist of the North Star
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Wikipedia is not a fan wiki, and it does not need to cover every single facet of fictional universes. Anything relevant in this article can be covered in either the main Fist of the North Star article, the episodes or the character pages. This page does not cite any sources or establish notability, and the page itself is going into too much detail about a series than is warranted. This is fairly common and is part of a broader problem on Wikipedia.

Some of the arguments for inclusion in previous debates are wrong. One editor cited other pages, which is an irrelevant argument. The page itself needs to establish notability. Further, in previous debates editors have cited the Japanese version as evidence that this page should exist. I'm going to cite WP:OTHERLANGS. We can't use other WP pages in other languages as evidence for a page to exist on WP. They have different criteria for inclusion, and the page may even fail notability guidelines themselves. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 17:09, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Do you want to nominate Nanto Seiken as well? If that particular fictional style is notable, it would strongly suggest this topic is notable, and vice versa. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:13, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hokuto Seiken might work as a redirect. I'm not sure. I don't think it's notable. I recently turned Hokuto Shinken because I believe it is an alternate name for the series itself. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 16:48, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete The nominator's rationale is spot-on. The article is completely unsourced, violates WP:NOTPLOT, fails our notability guideline for lists. The previous AfD discussions are a nice collection of arguments to avoid in AfD, but that was 5 years ago and fortunately our notability policies have grown stronger since.Folken de Fanel (talk) 22:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete No real world notability to be found. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete huge, unreferenced pile of unnecessary trivia. Wikipedia isn't a fansite. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  03:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable, unnecessary detail. Is there a fan wiki this can be transwikied to? Jenphalian (talk) 14:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.