Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of film and television clichés


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The result was delete. Yunshui 雲 水 09:20, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

List of film and television clichés

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This is in no sense a Wikipedia article, it is just a randomly compiled list of things loosely lumped together under a vaguely defined umbrella ThatGuamGuy (talk) 16:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep needs improvement but the concept of a list which itemises film and TV cliches seems encyclopaedic. That they’re all referenced is a big plus point. yorkshiresky (talk) 19:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. –  TheGridExe  ( talk )  18:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. –  TheGridExe  ( talk )  18:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. –  TheGridExe  ( talk )  18:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep I am not sure what the best way to organize it is, but easy to reference, there are several media cliche websites and it is easy to search for the word "cliche" in a movie review. --RAN (talk) 01:18, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete- The issue here is WP:SYNTH, while the article includes a lot of sources, its based on a bunch of different opinion pieces thrown together. Also the reliability of some (but not all) of the sources is questionable.--Rusf10 (talk) 03:25, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep there will be some source that discusses common sequences in film somewhere. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:36, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. As per . Though some of the claims maybe synthesized but they can be verified by watching the films. Harsh Rathod  Poke me!  11:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Movie cliches are interesting, but the list has no encyclopedic basis, and TVTropes is a better resource if one wanted to explore movie tropes by genre. The lede certainly doesn't give a reason for the list's existence, and "considered to be overused" is disingenuous - tropes aren't bad by nature, only bad writing that leans on tropes is. Additionally, the list conflates thematic tropes with stock characters, despite the fact that they should really be categorized and listed separately.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Though as per Yorkshiresky, the article needs improvement. I do think it could be a great article with work, maybe put more prose in there rather than just tables.--QueerFilmNerd (talk) 05:38, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SYNTH. A few examples of clichés does not make a notable list. Ajf773 (talk) 10:03, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Incredibly subjective concept and nearly infinite topic. Calm Omaha (talk) 19:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  A  Train talk 07:49, 29 May 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per Calm Omaha. For example, the EL is much longer than this article. The subdivisions are subjective even if the inclusion criteria weren't. And I don't think Spirited Away ended like that... – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 01:14, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment See also Articles for deletion/Film and television clichés and the linked discussions. – Laundry Pizza 03  ( d c&#x0304; ) 09:10, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 01:37, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * delete as indiscriminate list of assorted opinions. How many critics does it take to turn a trope into a cliche? Does it matter which critics say so? The whole thing is hopelessly subjective. Mangoe (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep A bit quirky but a shame to lose.--Davidcpearce (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Multiple other film studies-related lists. Legit subject matter. --- Evans1982 (talk) 23:34, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - indiscriminate and subjective. An old man's cliché is a young man's fresh concept. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:55, 12 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.